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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Why is that any opinion that some people don't like is labelled as "knee-jerk". Debate the point. If you think he's good then say so, and say why, and when. But to just call everything knee-jerk is lazy and a waste of time.

I've seen him last season and this. Overall, he has had maybe one good game in that time, so I have a similar opinion of him as of Spearing, who has perhaps had 2 good games. Neither are good enough imo. It's not knee-jerk, it's an opinion over a year or more.

He could improve dramatically, it's possible I suppose. But unlikely. Kelly has what it takes. Robinson has more potential. Flanagan is one of the least promising I've seen, and yet Kenny plays him more than the others.


Errr, Robinson plays at left-back and has had a lengthy time out due to injury.

Kelly is injured.

Who else have we got at right-back?

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Why is that any opinion that some people don't like is labelled as "knee-jerk". Debate the point. If you think he's good then say so, and say why, and when. But to just call everything knee-jerk is lazy and a waste of time.

I've seen him last season and this. Overall, he has had maybe one good game in that time, so I have a similar opinion of him as of Spearing, who has perhaps had 2 good games. Neither are good enough imo. It's not knee-jerk, it's an opinion over a year or more.

He could improve dramatically, it's possible I suppose. But unlikely. Kelly has what it takes. Robinson has more potential. Flanagan is one of the least promising I've seen, and yet Kenny plays him more than the others.


Errr, Robinson plays at left-back and has had a lengthy time out due to injury.

Kelly is injured.

Who else have we got at right-back?


Johnson is back right?

And I would rather play Hendo there than flano again. We have enough options in midfield to replace hendo.

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Originally Posted By: mightyreds
Johnson is back right?

And I would rather play Hendo there than flano again. We have enough options in midfield to replace hendo.


Just about. He has also been out injured for weeks.

Yes, lets convert Henderson to right back, just because Flanagan had a bad game.

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Now although he was attacked from the start we need to remember that in doing so Blackburn left themselves one through pass from oblivion on the counter attack and they got stung twice. Instead of getting the ball to Hoilett they decided to plunder our LB.

Sometimes you have to suck a team in to get the space behind them. We find this much easier than when passing it around against a side trying to park the bus. What they did suited us down to the ground.

I got slated for suggesting the kid gets a shadow when Carragher is playing and gets mollie coddled a bit. With Coates playing who is new to the game here at what point do you give protection to defenders when you are supposed to be trying to win a game.

But I would have taken him off after the second foul because that absolutely stuffed his confidence and he was an accident waiting to happen. Aurelio or Enrique could have come on at LB and Johnson to RB. Anyone could see something bad was going to happen.

He came into the side last season and is still young and a bit naive at times. He needs to win his own battles now and play wingers off the pitch. He probably needs to bulk up a bit but he is nowhere near finished because for a young lad his positional play is good and probably better than that of Johnson who somehow gets lost in the box when a cross comes over.

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Why is that any opinion that some people don't like is labelled as "knee-jerk". Debate the point. If you think he's good then say so, and say why, and when. But to just call everything knee-jerk is lazy and a waste of time.

I've seen him last season and this. Overall, he has had maybe one good game in that time, so I have a similar opinion of him as of Spearing, who has perhaps had 2 good games. Neither are good enough imo. It's not knee-jerk, it's an opinion over a year or more.

He could improve dramatically, it's possible I suppose. But unlikely. Kelly has what it takes. Robinson has more potential. Flanagan is one of the least promising I've seen, and yet Kenny plays him more than the others.


a bit harsh on one so young. he is ok and certainly willing to learn, i like his aggression and positional play is good for his age. The leap between reserves and first team looks more like a chasm than a step up. I like the idea of a loan next season where he can hone his skills.

Not a lost cause though

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you can't teach players experience can you? you just have to throw them in the deep end and let them learn for themselves. he didn't have his best game last night but the lad has showed he could be a good player in the future. i think he'll feature for us next season quite often in the europa league, will hopefully aid his and a few of the other younger lads development



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