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Whatever the deal is on Andy Carroll I can't see it. He has never looked a premiership footballer to me. If there is one thing that made Liverpool a laughing stock it was to pay £35m for him. Its something I will never understand.

First: I've said it before and I'll say it again. If a striker can only score one way, then he has no business being a striker. We shouldn't have to send balls to Carroll on a silver platter all the time. One-trick ponies are antiquated at best. Look at the top strikers in the league right now: Van Persie, Aguero, Rooney, Demba Ba - they can all score with their feet, heads, shoulders, *rseholes, whatever. Someone like Nat Lofthouse, who absolutely p*ssed on defenses 50 years ago, would be in the League 1 today.

Second: There's a difference between showing competitive spirit and having a temper tantrum. You don't have to be happy that you've been subbed off - in fact, you probably shouldn't be. But you should at least show enough respect to the manager, the fans, and the club not to throw a your toys out of the pram when you're taken off. Carroll played well for about 30 minutes, but was basically anonymous after that, and was back to his old (poor) self in the second half. Dalglish was well within his rights to take Carroll off. If Big Andy thinks that that's the kind of performance that entitles him to play every minute of every game, then he's sorely mistaken.

what torres and what carroll was is two totally different things. torres was world class, carroll was tyneside class. i think you have over hyped him there craney, i wont be putting my faith in carroll, but i am reserving my faith on dalglish aswell, i want to see what the next few weeks and months brings about.

The club's record signing turning out to actually be actually sh*t is hardly what I would consider an overblown issue...

Ah yes, because someone happened to title a thread "KD's Handling of Andy Carroll" that of course represents conclusive and indisputable authority that Andy Carroll's poor first touch, non-existant movement, terrible work ethic, bad attitude, lack of goal scoring, and inability to contribute anything to our build up play must be attributable to Kenny Dalglish. Words fail me...

Kenny has bumbled quite a lot of things. His fault was sanctioning the purchase of AC in the first place. It is not his fault that AC is a terrible footballer.

Its not Kenny's fault Carroll is a terrible fottballer but it would have been helpful to have known this before paying £35m for him.

Would Andy Carroll be so bad if we had paid £10m for him? all the Bravado about the price tag not being a burden when in fact the thought of the price tag haunts him at every turn after every game he fails to score. He must now look in the mirror and think to himself "what a waste of money"!. Wether it's Kennys fault I don't know, he's probaly thinking the same now!. The more I watch AC I think you could be good only if you tried a bit more, he does have some of the atributes needed to be a good stiker, but the most important one that he does lack is desire, desire to get the ball or the desire to get in front of the defender when the ball comes in, desire to work defenders and force them to make mistakes. He has had his chances and failed to take them. I think it's now time to the most honourable thing and sell him and release him from his nightmare before an further psycological damage is done.

Did he ever do it, he has never been prolific.

He was a huge gamble that has gone horribly wrong.

He is as dangerous as an overdose of blue skittles.

there is no explanation on earth that could justify carrolls form. if you can remember carroll got so many starts especially at the start of the season, carroll was playing matches after matches after matches, it wasnt until the new year that kenny has had enough of him especially seeing what he got out of pairing kuyt suarez and bellamy. As for the new castle game kenny had every right to take him off, the game is not over until the fat lady sings, kuyt and suarez have a way better partnership your 2nil down throw in the other striker to get back in the game. Players need the ridiculing at times it builds them give them that fire to be motivated even if its of anger, i assure you the next time he plays new catsle he has a point to prove. Sorry everyone keep talking about andy carroll team support and lack of confidence carroll should not of been purchased in the first place, his attributes doesnt fit in with lfc style of play, you will never see liverpool playing man u style ball game playing the ball down the wings and swinging crosses in, from the begining of time i can remember lfc ballgame being pass and move and quick counter attacking football even when crouch was here, carroll ballgame doesnt have that in it. he could of shine at newcastle cause they surrounded the team play around his style. is everyone saying that LFC should change our football style of play to accommodate carroll. i think not.

I agree with the one dimensional stuff, but guys, he wasn't this one dimensional at Newcastle. That's the big point your forgetting.

It wasn't just cross, cross, cross at Newcastle. They used him in a number of ways.

Cast your mind back to the time we played against Newcastle at St James' and he played for them. We had Torres at the time, he looked one dimensional and hopeless for us in that game. There was a total gulf in work rate, effort and output between Carroll and Torres that day.

I remember thinking, if only we had him up front for us.

I ain't having "its all Carrolls fault, he's a donkey" lads!

Kenny is systematically destroying the player. Sorry, but it's true.