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I was talking about downing, adam and carroll

I know, and I was reminding you that if half a manager's signings work out over the course of their contract then the manager has done well. If Adam and Carroll are flops, then so be it. If the other 5 work out then we can't really fault the manager - the high profile flop signings by other managers did not cost the manager his job because the club did not slide backwards as a result of those players. We won a trophy this season, the first one in 6 years, so it's likely we've not gone backwards over the last 14 months.

I am so sick and tired of people saying we won a cup, we won the carling cup, a cup that the top teams play their reserves and youngsters in.

I am not satisfied with saying we won the carling cup (be it the first in 6 years or not.

I expect more form a club like mine.

i think disregarding an achievement in the name of ambition is misguided.

You do realise you sound like a spoilt little child, right?

We won a f*cking cup. It's one of the main domestic honours. It's not to be sneezed at. We'd all like to be at least 4th in the league, but we're not. With that in mind, I'd certainly rather have one domestic cup in the bag and be in the quarters of the other one tomorrow, rather than have been knocked out of both.

"main domestic honour"?? Seriously?! It's the wooden spoon of the football season, and always has been.

Yes, main domestic honours. The main domestic honours are The Premiership Title, The FA Cup and the League Cup.

There are other trophies available in England, but these three are known as the 'main honours'.

We're not in the 80's anymore. We hadn't won anything in a while so there has been some progress. Don't look at Man City as the bench mark for progression unless you got a billion lying around.

Finish the season strong and lets take another step forward next seasin

Of course, we all expect more. But that doesn't mean we should ignore the achievement simply because it is a minor one. We had to travel for every fixture as well - no club had ever won the trophy without a home game (obviously the semi-final is excluded, because you play home and away). I wouldn't consider travelling to Stoke and Chelsea as games that are matter-of-course in any competition with any club.

We all understand that the Carling Cup is not the champions' league. But only one club wins it each year, and most of the time that winner is a club that qualifies for the CL (the rare exception being Arsenal making a hash of the final last season). After all, Man U won it 3 times in the last 7 years - they obviously don't take it seriously enough. Yes, they field experimental side in the early rounds, and sometimes come unstuck like they did this season, but I think the fact that Ronaldo and Rooney have played every final suggests even they consider it worth having if they get the opportunity.

Silly topic really. League Cup win doesn't mean we are great, but winning 5 away games and the final suggests we're not as bad as some would like to think.

please let there be no adam in the team tomorrow