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Honestly speaking, Nothing.

Henderson lacks adventure.

I think he is a talented footballer. It's been his pass that put the opponent on the backfoot, and lead to a goal on more than one occasion - generally through Bellamy. People forget that very easily.

But I get the feeling he's a bit conservative, either by nature or because he's overly aware of the pressure of playing for Liverpool. Sometimes it seems he just plumps for the safe option, and recycles possession rather than using it. Either he can remedy that or he can't, but for a 20 year old guy playing nearly every game in a season at the most successful club in England, I wouldn't be surprised if he's just holding himself back a bit much so that he doesn't look like a fool.

I think he has a decent understanding defensively, often tracking back and if not making the tackle putting the ball carrier under enough pressure to slow the attack down or break it up. Were he that decisive going forward I think he could become an excellent player for us.

Either way he's 20, and has the best midfielder in the game alongside him. I'm sure he'll be able to do something with that.

I think Henderson is ok - just ok

The problem is the fee I would say he is worth around £5m to £8m. I know he plays for the England U21's but even so.

the price you pay for buying british, which is why wenger hardly does.
he will come good though

That means absolutely nothing at all. Thousands of players with even less talent have scored the odd decent goal from time to time.

I'm not saying you are wrong, cause it's all subjective, don't want you thinking I'm one of those posters that just like to be contrary, but thats just not how I personally see it at all.

If he did mostly recycle possession, like a young lucas, it wouldn't be as bad as what he's currently doing...70% of the time making the wrong choice. Putting in woeful balls into the box (often not helped by poor movement in the box/not enough players getting in there), trying pointless little passes or touches that lose possession or slows down an attack. He played on the right plenty of times for sunderland last season, so there is no real excuse on that front (I know u didn't say there was), he gets a brief reprieve as he's young but honestly he is the worst signing this season so far. When I'm desperate for Kuyt to come on as our right winger to actually get past a defender you know there is something dodgey with the man that's currently out there.

As an additional point, probably something to do with how much he's desperate to be in the centre, but his positioning is honestly god awful. If you get the chance to player cam him do. He is so very often in the wrong place.

Funny that he's not bad on playstation henderson

huh?

I really don't think he will come good, neither will Carroll, neither one has any natural ability and they have poor footballing brains, constantly choosing the wrong option. Both of them need benching and then selling on in the summer.

Agree neither will make it but for different reasons. I've watched a lot of Henderson and as with a few other posters honestly believe he is a gifted player. But, the guy just can't play with the weight of this club. I have never seem him look comfortable in a game and always looks like the pressure is intolerable. He will probably do well else where. I don't think there is any justification for continual selection, but understand Kenny's foundation in the game and his loyalty to his players rightly or wrongly.

Whilst Carroll has upped his effort and work rate which is commendable, he just hasn't got it. As you said wrong option time and again (never more glaringly obvious than yesterday's final) and no footballing brain.

Downing's endeavour was totally and utterly wasted. If there was ever a more poignant example of a game which should have been 8-2 it was that final. There was no end result for his crosses all afternoon because we don't have the finisher who would have considered them tap-ins.

Even Suarez needn't have done any more with the right centre forward. He made 2-3 world-class sublime passes that should have all been goals, but again Carroll read none of them. The frustration on Suarez's face was blatantly obvious. He knows all right, that I am sure.

The striker is first and foremost the priority, even if it is only one summer signing. Additions from that should see continual improvement.