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who do you rate higher, spearing or Hendo?

To be honest, i think they're as tediously mediocre as each other, but at least spearing gets involved and is noticed. Plus he didn't cost us 10x his worth. I'd have no problem seeing either of them training with the 1st team or sat on the bench in case of an emergency, but the amount of game time that these 2 have received must be a large reason why we aren't doing better. Would they get 1st team football at any other top club? No chance at all.

henderson was a 1st team player at sunderland, not a fan of spearing so agree with you there

Harsh since he was player of the season at Sunderland before he signed with Liverpool. I think the problem with Hendo is he isn't in his right position and secondly he is not given that freedom he had at Sunderland which is understandable I suppose considering he was their star player. He isn't our star player and I just feel he needs time to progress.

Harsh ?

I have said that I rate henderson just not spearing, he looks a basic player at best, but who knows he might come back next season and surprise us all, regarding henderson, again i state i am glad we bought him.

I was replying to CarheeX actually

bit silly of you to reply to my post then, sorry your and my mistake i guess

Maybe i just struggle to see potential in general. I remember watching gerrard's 1st 2 seasons and thinking he was a dreadful liability! That said, at least gerrard was visible during games. JH has played 30+ (?) for us and must have an average of 4 or 5 out of 10 from most people? I would accept he had potential if consistency was his problem, ie a few 5s, a few 7s and the odd 8 or 9 thrown in but i honestly haven't seen him do anything of note at all.

What does he do well?

Some players develop much more slowly than others though. I see a lot in his game judging by he is not even 20 yet and is being played in a position alien to him, miereles couldnt do it either and he is the finished article. I agree his performances have been shocking but this is one i lay the blame at KD for.

He plays him in everymatch usually out of position shattering his confidence, to be honest he doesnt look like the brightest of players but he will develop much like lucas did imo, and why not sterling or one of the others, how old is stirling 18 ? now wouldnt suprise me if he announced his retirement after years of service in the baby team !

Lucas was brazillian footballer of the year when we bought him......henderson was sunderland's player of the year - big difference.. In my opinion lucas was therefore always going to come good, whereas as henderson.....who knows?? but we paid an awful lot of money for a player that can only be described as a "punt", and even when played in his best position doesn't seem to contribute very much.