players don't improve by achieving 4th place, I have never seen a tour bus parade around the city for 4th place and unlikely to either. Players/fans want trophies, those days out to Wembley with your mates are golden moments and such a laugh.
Would I swap two finals for 4th place - never in a million years. Winning creates winners, so many of our squad have won nothing so to win a carling cup and maybe have a chance of FA glory as well is essential if they are to improve - winning becomes a habit and we would be all the better for it.
Carheex - All the kids round your streets scoring goals and shouting 'Top corner! 4th is now guaranteed' -er NO! they dream of scoring winning goals at Wembley and lifting cups. Read autobiographies of any top player and they grew up dreaming of winning trophies.
Sky has alot to answer for with all this 4th place nonsense. Some of you need to have a reality check.