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So. You'd rather we weren't in the final at all then I presume? WTF is your problem ey?  Why can't you at least show a smidging of happiness for at least the fans that are going down there, tickets in hand to enjoy a well earned trip, the first major (minor in your view, granted) outing and vist to Wemblet Stadium for several years. One miserable git you are. Are you two related? if not you ort 2b Ey?  everyone knows your a miserable git. i reckon you two are a match made in heaven ( no offence carheexs)
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hey growler you managed to get me any tickets for the final?
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Oh I do indeed but I dont find it necessary to tell everyone.
Nor do I think it makes me better than other fans.
I don't want to ruin the thread but the truth is Shaggydog the club wants and needs lots of punters money. So if you go to the game (as you do) and pay out then you have to be a better supporter than someone who watches from the pub. I am not making a judgement here that’s the hard and irrefutable economics. Note the word supporter (support) as opposed to the word fan (likes / enjoys). For the Carling cup final I am not going as my season ticket cripples me financially so paying for the cup games is a step too far. Does that make me a bad supporter probably but that’s the way its going to have to be for me personally and many ex supporters are making those choices with the crazy ticket prices to pay the astronomical wage bills of today’s players. Who incidentally are pretty average.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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What sh1te you are talking. I have been known to have a damned good snarl and grumble when our team plays well below the expected standards, yes, the same as I have a moan about many crappy things that we all have to endure every piggin' day, but I do enjoy and join in with the jovial banter with most in here, you too I THOUGHT? No I haven't got a ticket btw, as i'm NOT a LOYAL season ticket holder. Can't afford one, and wouldn't pay that sort of money to line the bulging pockets of the obscenely stinking rich now anyway, even IF I could afford one. Does this make me a lesser fan too? 
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What sh1te you are talking. I have been known to have a damned good snarl and grumble when our team plays well below the expected standards, yes, the same as I have a moan about many crappy things that we all have to endure every piggin' day, but I do enjoy and join in with the jovial banter with most in here, you too I THOUGHT? No I haven't got a ticket btw, as i'm NOT a LOYAL season ticket holder. Can't afford one, and wouldn't pay that sort of money to line the bulging pockets of the obscenely stinking rich now anyway, even IF I could afford one. Does this make me a lesser fan too? It does not make you a lesser anything. But if everyone watched from the pub the club would cease to exist. Thats undeniable. If you were to buy a ticket to watch LFC Growler you would be asked for your email / mobile number and the club would bombard you with offers. If that a) because they like you as a friend b) because they want your money. But even in the pre money days the support only counted at the game. How could you inspire the team if you were not physically there? by the power of the mind perhaps?
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I've certainly handed over plenty of money in my time when I went to all the home matches religiously every fortnight.
Nowt unusual about that,and nothing to crow about either, as I was a mere one of tens of thousands.
I'm sure the club will survive without me and the many many others that haven't got £thousands£ to spare every year.
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What sh1te you are talking. I have been known to have a damned good snarl and grumble when our team plays well below the expected standards, yes, the same as I have a moan about many crappy things that we all have to endure every piggin' day, but I do enjoy and join in with the jovial banter with most in here, you too I THOUGHT? No I haven't got a ticket btw, as i'm NOT a LOYAL season ticket holder. Can't afford one, and wouldn't pay that sort of money to line the bulging pockets of the obscenely stinking rich now anyway, even IF I could afford one. Does this make me a lesser fan too? It does not make you a lesser anything. But if everyone watched from the pub the club would cease to exist. Thats undeniable. If you were to buy a ticket to watch LFC Growler you would be asked for your email / mobile number and the club would bombard you with offers. If that a) because they like you as a friend b) because they want your money. But even in the pre money days the support only counted at the game. How could you inspire the team if you were not physically there? by the power of the mind perhaps? Taking this one step further Stan...don't really want to start another conversation on this thread rbh, but as you mentioned it regarding , no paying fans, no club, WELL, if they lowered and capped the obscene wages that many of these nancy boys 'earn', lol, and even reduced them to a level that we all wouldn't find so vile obnoxious and obscene, then p'raps the clubs could reduce the prices of entry and season tickets to make 'supporting ON SITE so to spaek, a more viable proposition?
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Just trying to put some perspective on things so you're not all too depressed when we draw our next 2 league games and drop down to 8th. Enjoy your day out with the tourists and have a little jump up and down if we win the cup.........don't expect any other club to be jealous of our 'success' though.
But hey, come next weekend, cup or no cup we'll still be at least 1 point ahead of Norwich so the 'progression' is still going well. So. You'd rather we weren't in the final at all then I presume? WTF is your problem ey? Why can't you at least show a smidging of happiness for at least the fans that are going down there, tickets in hand to enjoy a well earned trip, the first major (minor in your view, granted) outing and vist to Wemblet Stadium for several years. One miserable git you are. In my post I have said 'enjoy your day out' so I'm not begrudging anyone their happiness. Not sure how you've come to that conclusion... Would I rather we weren't in the final? Well, due to the massive insignificance of the cup, I'd prefer that all of our top players were fit and injury free for our next few fixtures instead, as the club needs points and top 4 a lot more than it needs the carling cup. It could well be a tight finish for 4th place and with these poxy cup games we are handing our nearest competitors an advantage that we can ill afford to give them - come the end of the season, we may well have played several more games than the other teams competing for 4th and with a weak squad I feel that we are shooting ourselves in the foot by going all out for the domestic pots. The club's stature is a bit precarious and we should be prioritising.
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Not quite as clear cut I think. When you look at the figures, you see that advertising, tv coverage, shirt sales and prize money all together have dwarfed the actual ticket income for many years. So the club could survive, it'd just have to cut its wage bill quite a lot. I also don't agree with what you say about being a better supporter, for two reasons. The first is that it's not just about right now. There are fans who have contributed over many years, and they will have supported the club much more than someone who gets a season ticket for one year. Indeed. Valid poinrs well made.
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I'd dearly love to go to the match every week/fortnight again, but having the usual finacial burdens and ever diminishing disposal income, plus the points I made earlier about not particulary wanting to help fund yet another Ferrari/Bentley/diamomnd studded Rolex/ £3M mansion etc atc, endless list, then it simply ain't going to happen, regardless of my available funds now or in the future. MY moral principles and choice now.Take it or leave it. Don't actually give one if anyone disagrees tbh, so save yer breath Supported LFC for decades,and will continue to do so until I snuff it, and I'm proud and cool with that.
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