KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Dalglish lays down the law.

He hasn't performed like he used to, even before his several injury troubles.

When I look at Gerrard now, I cast my mind back to Henry at Arsenal just before he left. There comes a point in a footballers career where they just don't look the same, I can't quite put my finger on it. I think its more than just loosing a yard of pace. I don't think that thing, that eye of the tiger so to speak, is burning as much as it used to.

That's the only way I can put it and to be honest I'm sick of all the talk about players brought in, there are players at the club, not bought in by Dalglish who aren't performing. Some people will think it's knee-jerk and you can't say a bad word about Gerrard because of what he means to the club and has done on the pitch, but the fact is he isn't and will not ever be the same player he was.

He can still go on for a few years, but his game has to adjust now and become more of a "reader of the game" because it makes up for what the body struggles to do. He needs to evolve and who knows, every once in a while we will still see that Gerrard burst into the box. But it won't be as frequent as it used to be. Players around him have to step up as well and he needs to be played in the right position to be the most productive. Kenny isn't sure what to do when playing Gerrard, Adam and Henderson.

BTW anybody find it funny that Dalglish questioned the preparation of the players in the Bolton game?

Hmmmmm.

perhaps we should wait until he regains match fitness before we judge him.

Maybe they can make some money back on his name obviously not as much as is spent out but that goes for everyone at the club he is our talisman and he is staying on as ambassador, that lad has virtually won games single handed for us so he deserves some recognition for it,and if you have run out of money then its your call as to whether you use your savings up to pay for your ticket! i'm not being funny Stan but lots of us lost our tickets because of pricing a long time ago,and some of us aren't as lucky as you seem to be because there's no savings left for such luxuries so if you lose yours for the same reasons your not alone are you?

Agreed.

gerrard is the last player we should be blaming, his been out of the game for nearly a year so its only natural it would take time. i have full faith in the great man

Gwerrard is a great player even today. But in just 4 months he will be 32 and he has had injury problems. How commercial is it to give him a contract for £8m a year until he is 38?

This is completely and utterly insane. I now understand why they paid £35m for Andy Carroll. The people who are running LFC have no idea what they are doing. I do understand you must pay the going rate for stars but this does not make any sense whatsover.

Don't you all think that Kenny gets it? He knows that his signings aren't performing. After the b0ll0cking he gave them yesterday it'll be interesting to see his selection for wednesday and the teams reaction.
We can't lay all this at KDs door, how many of you were happy when we signed Carroll? I was, Downing? I was, Adam? I kinda was, and Henderson? he's a work in progress and so is LFC. Do we now expect 100% return from all our signings, same as in any other team there are going to be flops. We're not out of the running for CL yet, we're in 2 cups and one of our best players is back for the next league game, its not all doom and gloom folks and its not all KDs fault

Dunno, it's how you see it I suppose.

You see I don't think Kenny gave them a b*lloking at all, not at half time, not at full time. He said what he thought to the press. I think he may have done it to show to the players that how they performed was totally unacceptable....and by letting them sit and wonder why and hear what the manager has put down, it's up to them next game to put things right. That last game was a total and utter joke, from start to finish. If I was the manager, personally I would have given them a b*lloking at half time, I may even have made changes. But I'd make sure the players realized there attitude was unacceptable and demand more.

Did we really see any difference second half?

I put 2 and 2 together and came out with 4. I didn't see no aggression or kick up the arse attitude from Dalglish on the sidelines in the second half. It all seemed pretty muted and calculated. Where as I on the other hand, and I expect most fans to have been the same, were red faced with rage. I don't think I've ever been so angry at the players, not even 3-0 down to Milan at half time, or loosing to West Ham in the FA Cup.

What I find particularly bemusing are the comments Dalglish made after the game, obviously it's what we're all thinking ourselves. But, "The players weren't prepared before the game, the attitude wasn't right coming into the game, I didn't tell the players anything, I assumed that they were looking 2-3 games ahead"

Questions should be asked with those words, isn't he the football manager, manage...manager?

maybe not all doom and gloom but it's below expectations and KK is accountable for the team's performances and results. This is his team playing under his instructions so he is 100% answerable. No one is criticising him for not being top of the league. But performances and results have consistently been below expectation for which the buck stops with KK.

[quote=TheMightyLFC]Agree that on the pitch it's down to the players. But at the end of the day, who picks the players, mentors them, coaches them trains them. Who's responsible for making sure that the players selected are focussed, motivated and good enough for the job? That's all the responsibility of KK.

KK is responsible for signing Downing, Adam, Henderson, Carroll, Bellamy, and for leaving Carra out, in favour of Skrtel and Agger.


He has to take some of the flak.

I wont judge till may, but if we dont get top 4. is a DISASTER for me. and serious questions need to be asked, in all departments by the chief executive, commoli