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Love what you said CP1972!!! I think a lot of people where i live would disagree with you as i live in Catalunya but i believe that so much! Before FCB do what they do, Liverpool were doing beforehand! Yes a Mr Cruyff did change them into their famous
4-3-3.

Now are LFC going the same way as united back when SAF started?? Don't know. But i know Rome wasn't built in a day and many people complained!
That i feel we are in now. It is hard to wait for success especially what has happened. But i feel KD drive is even more than most of us and would feel this pain too!

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My expectations haven't changed: top 4 and a deep cup run or two. So far we're on track, though we seem to be slipping back in our quest for top 4.

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I was thinking top 4 and a cup win. Still possible but we need a 4 game running streak in the Prem to show that it is possible. With Suarez back for the right games it may yet happen but this team is not ready for CL football by an awful long way.

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Originally Posted By: cp1972
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I don't see us signing any of the best young players, unless you class henderson, shelvey and carroll in that category in which case your points are invalid and you need to be sectioned.
The game has moved on since those days and money now rules. We are no longer the power we once were who could attract players because of the name of the club and our position in world football. We can't offer champions league football - we can't even offer them europa league football! And even if were to sign quality youngsters they'd never get a game.

It's very wishful thinking on your part but if you believe our squad is going to go on and achieve a fraction of what Ferguson did at Utd then you will be massively disappointed. Utd moved forward with the times, rebuilt, made big changes, marketed themselves into a money making machine and THEN the success came. We have gone backwards by hiring an old manager that walked out on us last time around, hasn't managed for 15 years and puts his faith in big money english players even though the england team is a worldwide joke! Trust me, the journies couldn't be more different.


is the ball not round anymore? do you not have to score in the opposing teams net? are there still 11 players on each side?
well i think the game is very much the same. to quote Graham Hunter(Top spanish football observer), Barcelona have modelled themselves on Paisley's Liverpool where they pass and move but also press as a team using both short and long passes. Players seemlessly come in and out of the team without issue or change to the success. The philospohy being a great team and not ncesessarly great players. a point ackowleged by other Spanish observers at the time.

you are blinded by wanting to be right rather than what is actually happening. It is your choice but very blinkered


Your reply is irrelevant to everything that I put in my post, except for the bit about the game being different....I'm sure you were just being pedantic but I didn't mean the actual game of football has changed, I meant the business of football.

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i was hoping for some good football and a 4th position. i was behind kenny until the stoke game. i am having some serious daults and his ability. i find myself questioning his transfers and his tactics and substitutions

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I remember before the season stated claiming that 4th in the league and a good run in one of the domestic cups could be classified as a successful season - and I got slaughtered by the blind faith morons who said with our summer signings we were going to be battling it out with City, United and Chelsea for the title

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Originally Posted By: (E)SSO
I was thinking top 4 and a cup win. Still possible but we need a 4 game running streak in the Prem to show that it is possible. With Suarez back for the right games it may yet happen but this team is not ready for CL football by an awful long way.



I'll second that.

We've fallen a long, long way from grace as champions league winners and then finalists again 2 years after - much of that blame can be laid at the feet of hicks & gillet and the clubs lack of response in capitalising on being european champions. My concern is that it took 4 or 5 years to sink but it could take double that to get back on top again. One thing's for sure, money IS the key which means CL/Top4 must be the very minimum goal every season without exception.

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The game will take another turn once this homegrown thing kicks in fully and clubs are transparent about where their money comes from. That is what we need to be ahead on.

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Originally Posted By: redsan
A lot has been said of the last couple of games with team selections, tactics and way of playing!

Before the start of this season what was your real expectation of the club! To think so many new players and what else is going on round the club!

Plus, we are just a little over half way and seem like giving up on our expectation.

I mean, I believe we are top 5 or 6. Seriously! Man City and Spurs have been building the last couple of years and show that in their league position! Yes Arsenal and Chelsea have come down a bit but still capable of staying there. Newcastle is the surprise package!

Now we are building! Top 5 and a cup or 2 would be great! We can't just jump back in top 4, we have been going downhill. KD has stopped that and now we are turning a corner! It might take a season! Oh well. We believe and support as a team!


People seem to fdirget that just three years ago we had a team capable of challenging in both the league, the Champions League and the FA Cup

And people talk about us making progress

It's been nothing but a regression since the end of the 2008-09 season - and a big one at that

Is it any wonder why our fans are the laughing stock of the whole country

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Originally Posted By: (E)SSO
The game will take another turn once this homegrown thing kicks in fully and clubs are transparent about where their money comes from. That is what we need to be ahead on.
i dont think its going to work the way we all hope it would work. i can see teams working around it. just look at city and the 400m deal from his brother. what has happened abt that? have they got the thumps up

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