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If the fa make Luis the big example I think we should bury them in complaints, firstly go to European court or eur9pean sport court for a fair hearing then instruct all our players if anyone utters a disrespectful word racist or not to immediately insist its in match report then officially complain to fa. You can be sure utd would do something similar and I believe our canny Scot won't take this lying down..
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The point of my last post (too late to edit):
Did Suarez insult Evra? Absolutely.
Did he do this deliberately? Absolutely. Anyone denying this is a fool.
But that's not what he is accused of doing, is it?
Did Suarez racially abuse Evra? That's much more difficult to determine given their differences in home language and culture, and Suarez's relative inexperience with English.
Given that the charge is racial abuse and not verbal abuse, the case is surely too difficult to make a judgement either way. The proximity of "Negrito" to other, less savoury words is unfortunate - and in the heat of battle with someone known to cry foul re: racial abuse, it's perfectly understandable that Evra feels aggrieved. But I think he needs to appreciate that maybe, just maybe he misunderstood. Evra has unwittingly opened a big can of worms - the animosity between Man U and LFC was always going to make this much bigger than anything, particularly given how fondly the media look upon us.
I honestly can't see this as anything other than a wash - shake hands and walk away, exactly as Blatter said (though he didn't exactly cover himself in glory saying it). Can you really ban a guy for more than a game or two if he used a word with an impact he simply didn't understand? Can you really ban him at all for using an insult that sounds similar to a racial taunt, but having no racial overtones? [ie Do all words in all languages that sound like "black man" suddenly mean "dirty, ungrateful slave"?] Can you ban a player for laying a false charge in such a case, as Dalglish seems to think should happen to Evra should Suarez walk? I think the answer is "No" to all of these. In a nutshell what we are talking about here is intent. Did Suarez intend to racially abuse Evra? Intent in this case would be impossible to prove. I would be surprised if Suarez is found guilty.
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If the fa make Luis the big example I think we should bury them in complaints, firstly go to European court or eur9pean sport court for a fair hearing then instruct all our players if anyone utters a disrespectful word racist or not to immediately insist its in match report then officially complain to fa. You can be sure utd would do something similar and I believe our canny Scot won't take this lying down.. We have players playing for England. They might suddenly develop a sprain here, a knock there...
I am only responsible for what I write. Not for what you understand.
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Given that its an FA decision I am fearful for the outcome. Just glad we have Bellamy to slot in if needed and Carroll had bloody well better step up to the mark, else we're in for a rocky ride. Just hope I'm wrong and Suarez is proved innocent, but when it comes to the corrupt FA having the say, anything can happen, especially when Man U is involved, not to mention the England captain.
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Didn't know the Uruguayan embassy are involved, good this'll put more pressure on the fa. I think (in backing utd) there gonna [oops] this up and its gonna haunt them...
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Uraguay is sending a flotilla of warships up the atlantic
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The fact you all WANT him banned does not mean he will be banned, nor does it mean he is guilty, I am happy to await this "evidence" that aparently Liverpool have been drip feeding (way to go again fergie you cantankerous old toad) the media. And where did I mention I want him banned? On the contrary! I'm just a bit worried about it's the FA who are holding the axe. Are they known for being fair and not standing on Manure's side? If this was a case taken up in a legal court I wouldn't be worried at all, if it wasn't for the Manure people talking about evidence that still hasn't been revealed.
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It might end up in court yet...
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Yeah, maybe it will.
But someone need to file a complant first then, right? And why hasn't that someone (Evra the twât) done it yet?
Is there a period of limitation in a case like this?
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The fact you all WANT him banned does not mean he will be banned, nor does it mean he is guilty, I am happy to await this "evidence" that aparently Liverpool have been drip feeding (way to go again fergie you cantankerous old toad) the media. And where did I mention I want him banned? On the contrary! I'm just a bit worried about it's the FA who are holding the axe. Are they known for being fair and not standing on Manure's side? If this was a case taken up in a legal court I wouldn't be worried at all, if it wasn't for the Manure people talking about evidence that still hasn't been revealed. Let me see this damning evidence then. Until I see stonewall proof of at least four times of the TEN that Suarez abused Evra I will not accept anything that lying little turd says. I am sure a few Chelsea linesmen in the immigration force will back me up on that one (oh someone got banned for that did they?) http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footb...ml?action=PopupI suppose Fergie wants a Man Utd board member on the panel this time around.
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