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Originally Posted By: wakka
Almost as ridicilous as saying that Houilier was a better manager and a bigger legend,dont be so dismissive of peoples opinions when you're own are pretty ridicilous.
why isnt houllier a bigger legend he brought the glory years back to liverpool won trophies european and domestic finished 2nd in the league and the vast majority of his players where the bulk of the 2005 CL team and 2006 F.A.Cup team and you say i dismis people opinion because 1.it is a forum and 2 i think your very very wrong , so i counter it with i know what is right .


ALLEZ ALLEZ GERARD HOULLIER

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yeah and it was hector cupers valencia team that one 2 la ligas aswell.


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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
yes great but the real facts were and are man utd won the CL and the leagues so a co efficiant ranking means nothing .

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here is the top 20 now man utd best team in europe ? well according to UEFA yes

1 Manchester United Eng 32.5750 28.0000 28.5856 36.6714 11.9000 137.732
2 FC Barcelona Esp 27.7750 28.6624 30.5856 36.6428 12.5142 136.180
3 Chelsea Eng 28.5750 25.0000 22.5856 26.6714 11.9000 114.732
4 Bayern München Ger 22.7000 22.5374 30.6166 24.1332 12.4500 112.437
5 Arsenal Eng 21.5750 22.0000 25.5856 22.6714 11.9000 103.732
6 Real Madrid Esp 14.7750 14.6624 22.5856 33.6428 13.5142 99.180
7 Internazionale Ita 16.0500 13.2750 34.0856 21.3142 11.1570 95.881
8 FC Porto Por 15.5856 17.3570 21.0000 31.7600 8.2666 93.969
9 Liverpool Eng 24.5750 23.0000 24.5856 15.6714 1.9000 89.732
10 Olympique Lyon Fra 13.3856 15.2000 28.0000 19.1500 8.2332 83.968
11 Shakhtar Donetsk Ukr 7.9750 29.3250 11.1600 26.0166 7.0166 81.493
12 AC Milan Ita 16.0500 14.2750 19.0856 18.3142 11.1570 78.881
13 Villarreal Esp 15.7750 18.6624 10.5856 26.6428 5.5142 77.180
14 Benfica Por 12.5856 4.3570 21.0000 25.7600 11.2666 74.969
15 Olympique Marseille Fra 13.3856 14.2000 17.0000 20.1500 10.2332 74.968
16 Valencia Esp 9.7750 13.6624 19.5856 21.6428 9.5142 74.180
17 Atlético Madrid Esp 14.7750 17.6624 24.5856 9.6428 6.5142 73.180
18 CSKA Moscow Rus 6.2500 18.9500 21.2332 16.1832 9.1500 71.766
19 Werder Bremen

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
here is the top 20 now man utd best team in europe ? well according to UEFA yes

1 Manchester United Eng 32.5750 28.0000 28.5856 36.6714 11.9000 137.732
2 FC Barcelona Esp 27.7750 28.6624 30.5856 36.6428 12.5142 136.180
3 Chelsea Eng 28.5750 25.0000 22.5856 26.6714 11.9000 114.732
4 Bayern München Ger 22.7000 22.5374 30.6166 24.1332 12.4500 112.437
5 Arsenal Eng 21.5750 22.0000 25.5856 22.6714 11.9000 103.732
6 Real Madrid Esp 14.7750 14.6624 22.5856 33.6428 13.5142 99.180
7 Internazionale Ita 16.0500 13.2750 34.0856 21.3142 11.1570 95.881
8 FC Porto Por 15.5856 17.3570 21.0000 31.7600 8.2666 93.969
9 Liverpool Eng 24.5750 23.0000 24.5856 15.6714 1.9000 89.732
10 Olympique Lyon Fra 13.3856 15.2000 28.0000 19.1500 8.2332 83.968
11 Shakhtar Donetsk Ukr 7.9750 29.3250 11.1600 26.0166 7.0166 81.493
12 AC Milan Ita 16.0500 14.2750 19.0856 18.3142 11.1570 78.881
13 Villarreal Esp 15.7750 18.6624 10.5856 26.6428 5.5142 77.180
14 Benfica Por 12.5856 4.3570 21.0000 25.7600 11.2666 74.969
15 Olympique Marseille Fra 13.3856 14.2000 17.0000 20.1500 10.2332 74.968
16 Valencia Esp 9.7750 13.6624 19.5856 21.6428 9.5142 74.180
17 Atlético Madrid Esp 14.7750 17.6624 24.5856 9.6428 6.5142 73.180
18 CSKA Moscow Rus 6.2500 18.9500 21.2332 16.1832 9.1500 71.766
19 Werder Bremen
Yep I would have it with United top followed by Barca myself like even though it's not very nice seeing them there.

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Rafa 56% win
Gerrard 50% win

Rafa 72 points average
Gerrard 65 points average

Rafa best season 86 points
Gerrard best season 80 points

Rafa 3 champions league semis and 2 finals
Gerrard 0 semis and finals

1 fa cup each
Houilier won more laegue cups.


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Afternoon Faz. Of course it means something - but only to those who have an open mind.

It reflects the FACT that we were making progress. we were re-establishing ourselves as a feared opposition throughout europe. The co-effiecient is based on results which also take into account the quality of the opposition in those results. So it reflects the FACT that we consistently got good results against decent opposition.

United won the league. so what? well done to them - they had a better team and they got better results domestically. It had to happen. Let's hope some new teams win the league too. That's football. I don't think I'd be happy if LFC won the league 100 years in a row.

It's all about competing, entertaining, attempting to win, and winning once in a while too. And under Rafa we were doing that. Yes, could've been better - but you've got a blind spot if you can't acknowledge the positives.


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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC


United won the league. so what?
ha ha ha are you real so what ?

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Originally Posted By: wakka
Rafa 56% win
Gerrard 50% win

Rafa 72 points average
Gerrard 65 points average

Rafa best season 86 points
Gerrard best season 80 points

Rafa 3 champions league semis and 2 finals
Gerrard 0 semis and finals

1 fa cup each
Houilier won more laegue cups.
houllier won more brought back the belief of winning and nice the way you just dismiss the treble and the UEFA Cup 2001 , just goes to show how shallow and blinkered the modern day liverpool supporter is sadly .

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