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since we are rubbish! and only deserving to be in 6th or 7th,id say if we got 4th its more successfull! of course it would be more successful but it wouldnt be success , just a question if you know because i know , is getting 4th or a CL place on the honours list of LFC ?
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Well I am sorry I just dont go along with this second best team nonesense, when Dalglish took over there was nothing to play for in the league only pride, so there was no real pressure on any of the games apart from maybe the Spurs one where we needed to win. The real test will start against Sunderland onwards when there will be something on the games. I have said all along, a good season for me and one that I would be extremely happy with would be a top 6 finish and to win one of the Cups, I dont think thats too low a target or one that's above our station, thats a fair one for a Club like ours and given it's a new project and will take us time to settle. RED NS I think we will all agree with you on those sentiments. I think you make a good point when you say the team had no pressure because they were out of all competitions, that is very true and the true test will indeed commence against sunderland. Second point is that you have to understand everyone on these forums except maybe Growler has said a top 4/ top 6 finish along with some silverware is an ideal start to this new project. The only person that has mentioned winning the big one is Growler and whether he is just saying that to pi$s you off or its real its his own opinion. But other than that everyone has the same expectations as you so I don't know why you and some others here are angry and seem to think we are all wrong. We are liverpool fans, we need to be on the same page for this to work. I think I just see people expecting too much as putting extra pressure on us to achieve things and those expectation levels have crippled us for 20 years now, so I speak up. As much as we all love the old days it's a totaly different Club now, different fans, different owners a whole new ball game and I just feel fans delving back into the way we used to be is not helping anyone it's just putting added pressure on us.
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I keep saying this till I am blue in the face. It’s off the field where it matters if and when the new owners announce the new ground (25 years overdue BTW) and a strategy for the future that will see us generating the revenues we need to compete on a level with City, United, Chelsea then expectations will form themselves. The stuff on here is pie in the sky the organic rise like Derby or Notts Forest as in the 70’s / 80’s will never happen again. You need money behind you now and we are talking hundreds of millions. Now that may happen with these new owners but we are still waiting at this moment. When and if it does you will see expectations rise to the top but until that day we are shopping at Asda. No amount of calling people pessimists or optimists will change that cruel and basic fact.
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I think anything below top 4 is a failed season. We need that champions league spot to give this 'new project' a decent chance. I can agree with you there pops! but if we dont do it then thats where we are,we have to walk before we can run,oops! im risking sounding like a realist there.
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I think anything below top 4 is a failed season. We need that champions league spot to give this 'new project' a decent chance. rubbish getting in the champions league is not sucess when has finishing 4th been sucess , this is the big problem that is a hangover from the benitez era when finishing in a CL place was classed as sucess and not taking the domestic cups serious , winning a cup or two is sucess . Yeah because I can see, that if Stoke won the FA cup, that would give them a lot of credit, and draw a lot of interest. You talked about the new project, and the best way a project is going to develop is if we are playing in a big European comp. Not saying that a cup wouldn't be great, but champs league would give us more power. i think stoke got a lot of credit for getting the final and only getting the final for stoke has upped there profile , and so as far as your concerned finishing 4th is success and it doesnt matter if you win anything as long as a team finished at least 4th ? Hardly a lot of credit though. They haven't exactly got top player lining up to play for them. Off course I want us to win something, but as you mentioned earlier, this is a project, and in order for us to make the best out of the project, that the new owners are working with, we need to be playing in Europe, so we can attract better players, get out name out there more (not that it isn't), and make the club more appealing for players and could be supporters overseas. So I would go for a European spot over a cup win. It's good for our future, but by no means a success, but a means to to grow.
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I think anything below top 4 is a failed season. We need that champions league spot to give this 'new project' a decent chance. I can agree with you there pops! but if we dont do it then thats where we are,we have to walk before we can run,oops! im risking sounding like a realist there. bloody realist  
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I think anything below top 4 is a failed season. We need that champions league spot to give this 'new project' a decent chance. I can agree with you there pops! but if we dont do it then thats where we are,we have to walk before we can run,oops! im risking sounding like a realist there. I agree, but it would be nice to get in. And personally I expect us to. Don't forget it was only a few seasons ago we were 2nd in the league. Sure others have got better, but we have too.
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 ill nip it in the bud snakeye.
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In 2 years time it will be a Top 4 of Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City
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In 2 years time it will be a Top 4 of Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City Will it
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