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Originally Posted By: trepie
and never get a run in the team! ffs that's why we are struggling because of that kind of short sighted thinking! this is exactly what houllier got wrong - he brought in sub-standard players instead of giving kids a chance ....... IF we had lost the games then worry about it - but having a kid in the centre of defence would not mean we would lose them ..... imo we would not have conceded 3 goals against bolton with ayala instead of kyrgiakos at the back


Ehm Trepie, we only conceded 2 goals against Bolton....not that it matters in the discussion...

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oops sorry was a typo! but my point still stands - kyrgiakos looked lost on every bolton attack

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well, I'm was watching the match on telly and I'm sure he won some headers!

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and ayala could have won those headers too! they are the same height after all ..... his general play was poor - i know it is early days but it doesn't change the fact it was still a pointless buy, especially for a club with so little money to spend!

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He was better than carragher against Bolton thats for sure , mind you that wouldnt be difficult cos he has been pants this year so far !! As for saying he was a flop in Scotland ??? Err living in Scotland i get to watch most of the games , and he was actually one of Rangers best players that season , scored important goals as well and then got a good move to Germany , who didnt want him to go either ,and was good for AEK last season , so all in all he wis a good signing for the money paid IMO anyway

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how bad does rafa think kelly and ayala are if he goes to greece and pays 2m for "that" when faced with the prospect of having to throw them in. We must have 40 kids under 20 in the reserves / under 18 etc that we're all hoping are the next big thing - unfortunately i'd be surprised if ONE came threw in the next five years under rafa.

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Also living in Scotland, not far from Glasgow, i think calling him one of Rangers best players is some what of a dodgy comment. Alot of Rangers fans are still laughing at the fact we bought him. He wasn't horrendous and he did his job most of the time if you could keep him on the pitch. He is a man who occassionally sees RED if you catch my meaning. He will stop attackers, we may just end up with ten men afterwards though!

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i agree totally rafa - i see this as a desperate measure of a guy who knows his job is on the line

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whereas i don't like the idea of buying the greek, we insua as a rookie in the team at RB. putting in ayala (despite how highly i rate him) at RCB with him is alot of inexperience. one young lad in that area of the pitch is enough, particularly when johnson is new in and jamie has gotten a minor injury this season. playing insua, johnson and ayala all at the same time...it's a very new defence for us so adding the greek is a way of temporarily bolstering it.

if somone said about sticking spearing into the midfield...i'd probably support that

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insua is a left back for starters ...... and for second you are talking about not wanting inexperience because of players being new to the team so you want to put another player who is new to the team in???? wtf? how does that make sense? at least ayala has had the opportunity to train with the team in preseason and get to know his team mates ...... the greek is completely new and has no understanding ....... its not going to bolster anything!

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