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How about Maureens sister

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
It's clear to me that you think Kenny is the man, based on the games/competitions you decide to look at. I on the other hand am looking at the overall picture and am coming to a different conclusion. We'll leave it there shall we?

We're all entitled to our own misguided opinions. You say "overall picture" but look only at win/loss numbers as though they mean everything. I say "look beyond just the non-equivalent results, look beyond the non-equivalent number of days of preparation the managers had when beginning their tenures, look beyond the non-comparative opposition strength or who had which stronger players to choose from, look also at the club unity, look also at what the fans want, look also at what your managerial god wants [anyone other than Liverpool, straight from the horse's mouth], look also at the transfer window activity, look also at where the club lies in relation to its peers in England [aka the EPL league and form tables], for THAT is the overall picture of Kenny Dalglish's second stint in charge". Kenny ticks enough boxes to not need replacing despite being eliminated from the FA Cup and Europa League competitions, not that I think he couldn't have done better there. You however seem to want to hang him because 1) he couldn't beat Braga after the Greek gave them an undeserved penalty at home, and because 2) we had 2 first half injuries and two dreadful mistakes from the Greek against West Brom, which was embarrassing but wasn't something he actually had much control over. If only Kenny didn't need to keep playing Krygiakos! The only conclusion I'm drawing is that you're not looking at the overall picture. So yeah, let's leave it at that.

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Originally Posted By: emp
he is a bit of a looker

aaaah, so you're the one with his hands in his pockets thinking of Maureen...

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lol!

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no when in my dirty world its rafa dressed in roman legion outfit with openings for his manly gut and todger and balls.tell me your idea rafa tell me good


I must of clicked on the wrong forum. I thought this was Koptalk not Koktalk!!!

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Originally Posted By: thundyr
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
It's clear to me that you think Kenny is the man, based on the games/competitions you decide to look at. I on the other hand am looking at the overall picture and am coming to a different conclusion. We'll leave it there shall we?

We're all entitled to our own misguided opinions. You say "overall picture" but look only at win/loss numbers as though they mean everything. I say "look beyond just the non-equivalent results, look beyond the non-equivalent number of days of preparation the managers had when beginning their tenures, look beyond the non-comparative opposition strength or who had which stronger players to choose from, look also at the club unity, look also at what the fans want, look also at what your managerial god wants [anyone other than Liverpool, straight from the horse's mouth], look also at the transfer window activity, look also at where the club lies in relation to its peers in England [aka the EPL league and form tables], for THAT is the overall picture of Kenny Dalglish's second stint in charge". Kenny ticks enough boxes to not need replacing despite being eliminated from the FA Cup and Europa League competitions, not that I think he couldn't have done better there. You however seem to want to hang him because 1) he couldn't beat Braga after the Greek gave them an undeserved penalty at home, and because 2) we had 2 first half injuries and two dreadful mistakes from the Greek against West Brom, which was embarrassing but wasn't something he actually had much control over. If only Kenny didn't need to keep playing Krygiakos! The only conclusion I'm drawing is that you're not looking at the overall picture. So yeah, let's leave it at that.


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You can't analyse a handful of games and make excuses based on one players actions or a referees decision to prove a point. The ONLY fair way is to judge them on an equal amount of games. But you don't seem to want to do that as it doesn't suit your agenda. By comparing the results over ALL games I have displayed fair judgement. You have only attempted to prove that we are better in recent league games (even though we're below west brom in the form table!). The only think you actually proved is that you've got way too much time on your hands and you're taking this too seriously. I mean, what sort of person picks out an individual players' errors in hand picked games to try and prove whether the manager has exceeded expectation or not!?! sleep

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Again I don't think Kenny is the best choice, but when I think about the fact we probably won't be in Europe next year, domestic league form is more important. And let's be honest, Kenny has wiped the floor with mr hodgson there. If we were in Europe I'd think a quicker change of manager was necessary if we wanted to compete in the competition seriously. But if we aren't I see no rush to replace him as there aren't any outstanding candidates just potentials who have done it in inferior leagues with less ambition, bar maybe a couple who probably wouldn't come here due to our league placing in the last couple of years. It would take someone like Louis van Gaal or someone of his pedigree to make me think we need an immediate change if we fall short of a european place.

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Actually you pointed out the games - I just mentioned some things that happened during them. Football isn't as clear-cut as you make it out to be; you think the fans will sack Fergie because he lost at Wolves? Also, I did not say Kenny was top on form over "recent league" games, I said he was 3rd over all 11 he managed. Try to keep up.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
The ONLY fair way is to judge them on an equal amount of games.

Actually, the ONLY fair way is to judge them on an equal amount of games against the same opposition. You either disagree with this point, or you think Trabzonspor and Rabotniki are on a par with the likes of Stoke and Fulham (or Sparta Prague and Braga - your choice). In either case you are wrong (and yes, Kenny beat both those EPL sides already this season).

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