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I think we nearly reached the point of no return under Souness and its been a slow and long recovery ever since.
We have progressed slowly but consistently since that point. Evans improved on Souness, Houllier improved on Evans and Rafa has improved on Houllier.
And we are very nearly there, Rafa has, over time, dramatically improved our team. He has not had the money that Utd, Chelsea and now Man City have had but now we are nearly there. I think we need cover up front and a little more creativity but no team at the moment is without their faults. Rafa has done a great job.
All to play for... Please tell me again how the Spaniard has improved the team when we have not won anything for three seasons, Even when he did win the Champions League and F.A.Cup the backbone of both teams were with Houllier's players and not his own Big Sami, Riise, Carragher, Hamann, Cisse, Smicer, Baros, Djimi Traore,Steve Finnan and Gerrard. People keep bringing up what the Spaniard has brought into the club but no fan is interested in that all we are interested in is what players he spends his money on and play on the pitch, the only people who are interested in what the Spaniard makes from Sales is George Gillette and Tom Hicks,when are you people going to learn nobody is interested in whats at the bottom of a balance sheet all that counts is whats running around the pitch and he has spent nearly 40 million pound this summer on players he thinks will win us the league. And tell us Ged...what did Houllier achieve with these players that he bought into the club??? At least Rafa got them playing as team and a unit who played for each other and had a never say die attitude? Regardless of whether it was a miracle or not, fact is we still won it and I bet you were out there celbrating like all other LFC supporters.....
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Sky Bet have suspended betting on David Silva Moving...Liverpool were 10/11 favorites before this happened. Hopefully not another Ribery!
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Geez Ged you're not very bright are you. If you can't see the improvement in the team between Houllier and Rafa, then you should watch another sport, because you'll never understand football.
By the way Simon, great post there. Spot on.
And Ged, just to give you a hint, we won the european cup under rafa and the worst we have finished in the league was 5th. Under Houllier we won the uefa cup and our worst position was 7th. Under Rafa we are strong in europe every year, under Houllier we struggled against sides like Basle. Under rafa, we have to compete with huge spending Chelsea, Strength of United, and now Man City spending like crazy, and Rafa just can't compete financially. Houllier only had to compete with United, and he was able to compete on similar financial terms. There was no abramovich or man city arabs.
Exactly Rafa. People often forget that european football has gone money mad especially over the last 5 years just as Benítez walked into Anfield! Venger and Ferguscum never had the same competition to fight against when they started their jobs. But as always, it just a waste of breath trying to explain such trivialities!!! 
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And not to mention this summer any out goings have been balanced by sales.
Not to mention of course the fact that we pay far more in interest thanks to the Americans each year than we ever spend on transfers...
bringing us back to the people who really are holding this club back...
THE AMERICANS.
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Geez Ged you're not very bright are you. If you can't see the improvement in the team between Houllier and Rafa, then you should watch another sport, because you'll never understand football.
By the way Simon, great post there. Spot on.
And Ged, just to give you a hint, we won the european cup under rafa and the worst we have finished in the league was 5th. Under Houllier we won the uefa cup and our worst position was 7th. Under Rafa we are strong in europe every year, under Houllier we struggled against sides like Basle. Under rafa, we have to compete with huge spending Chelsea, Strength of United, and now Man City spending like crazy, and Rafa just can't compete financially. Houllier only had to compete with United, and he was able to compete on similar financial terms. There was no abramovich or man city arabs.
And the worst Roy Evans finished was 4th was'nt it, dont understand what your making out of that fact, until last season Roy Evans team was the one who has come nearest to winning the league since we last won it. As i have stated before, money is important yes but it's not the be all and end all, if you have a good enough manager you can more than make up for any lack of cash, it's not about bringing in the most expensive players it's all about bringing in the right ones. No matter what anyone says Souness, Evans,Houllier were all asked to leave the club because they never won the league and thats why this coming summer Benites will be asked to do the same, it's a load of rubbish about how each manager has improved it's past all that, you have to win the league or else and the Spaniard has failed in five full seasons, first is first and second is nowhere am afraid, that was the foundations the club was built on until mediocrity swept through the club and fans which is what we are seeing now with some of these comments on here, wish some of you would grow a spine.
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