thundyr i understand where your coming from i really do but in all the games that we have lost this season apart from the man citeh stoke blackpool game we were not out played we just didnot put our chances away how many chances did we have against the spud all we need to do is turn those chances into goals and that could be the different in coming fourth and finishing behind Newcastle. The one player who can make that different is captain fantastic steven gerrard
Unfortunately much the same can be said for the sides we've done well against - Chelsea, Arsenal, WBA were not performances we we deserved as many points for given the chances they squandered. United also should have been 5 up at half time against us; how do you think that would have affected our morale? And of course it's quite a disaster to admit we were outplayed by Stoke. We are where we deserve to be; thinking otherwise is an illusion.
Gerrard can, and does, make a difference, but we have at least enough quality players in this side to not need to continually rely on his magic. As I said earlier in the thread - I don't want to even think about him leaving - that's how desperate we are (or at least I am).