KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Rafa must stay

Dunk what you are saying in the most makes sense, But come on and get off the fence.....,To be on honest I'd say about 60% of Liverpool supports are on the fence, some because of the simple fact that a team can not go this bad overnight and are putting it down to bad luck... but most are blaming the owners (and in the big picture rightly so). I've been one of these myself

But this season we have been S**T, To be honest i wrote us off after the spurs game, Not because we lost the game but the way we lost it, There was sulking going on all over the team. I put this down to broken promises in the summer by the owners.But that is over now and to be honest there is nothing we can do to effect what bill and Ben do with the club. Now was this done on purpose by the owners?????????????

1- They never wanted to give Rafa a new contract, Never listen to all that BS from hicks about "Rafa being the man" HE DOESN'T WANT HIM THERE, Neither of them want him there. They bent to the masses and gave him his contract promising this and that, But its now plain to see the goal posts have moved again. The first sign of this was the bulk of the transfer budget going on renewing players contracts.

2- They now just back him to the full threw Purslow, Lets face it any other club our size been knocked out of the CL this early and never scoring more than one goal would be asking Questions of there manager, what do we get!!!!!!! "Rafa is the man"

3- Never mind how many matches we win, lose or draw our form is terrible, The worst football since the last season of GH, We are a "top four" team playing 2 defensive midfielders, None of the others do this. I think the panic button has been pressed and Rafa has gone back to listening to no else about how the team should play. Every game is like a away tie in Europe, Bombarded the other side, nick a goal and then try and see out the rest of the game.

4- so its like this, our form is gone, The manager does not trust his own signings (Aqua-man never playing even though fit for the last 6 weeks), He's losing senior players and we are praying for a good result against Wolves....(and they won't drop all there players against us). When its like that some thing has to give and sadly for Rafa he is the one coming more and more into the firing line. If we do not get 10 or 12 points from the next 4 games (Wolves,Villa,Spurs and Stoke) the top 4 is gone. So If we don't get the points the question is should Rafa stay?????

no i don't think he should stay

I don't think that things are working for him and no amount of time can sort this. we all hoped that when key players where fit the form would return and things would be good again. We most players have played recently and we are still rubbish. This season does remind me of the last season of GH but at least then we finished 4th and got champions league football. I mean some people say get a new manager will makes things worse, my comeback is how can it get any worse.

...oh cj if only we had a crystal ball

leg end..how on earth did u look for that old post just to slag him off?? genius

Where am i slagging him off?Just pointing out it could and did get worse,if you want to look deeper then that then good luck

Rafa should still be here. He is the true spirit of liverpool. He is ouir manager and we want and need him back. At all costs Rafa should be Henry's first signing I'm in no doubt. We've all read about be carefull what you wish for, all people that were happy to replace him with the FULHAM manager HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME

Emporer Hodge my friend, I see your choice of manager is a raving success. He makes fat sam look credible.

Kids go free tonight mate surprised you're not there mate

Why the hell has this been dragged out?

Rafa had to go and we should never go back. It wouldn't work. We need a young, energetic, driven and ambitious manager to take us forward long term. Roy may pull it round (can't see it but hope he does for LFC's sake) but he is too old already to be long term. Owen Coyle has been mentioned and would be good. Porto Manager also. They are the kind of managers we should look to not Rafa. He is gone so lets leave it at that.

Not Benitez back - his idiosyncratic time has gone!!!. Not Kenny as some interim 'hit-and-hope messiah' [oops] and most definitely not Roy Hodgson to continue any longer.

Emp, you have faith in the manager, why? What has he had the players doing that, whilst failing to impress the competition, has left such an impact on you? Whatever, Roy is telling the players to do seems to lack any consistent benefit in a single game or a string of games. When have we consistently had the upperhand rather than relying on individual flashes of inspiration (gerrard V Napoli and Torres V Chelsea)?

We're getting short bursts of plan A working followed by tactical change by the opposition, followed by head scratching (RH), followed by failure.

If there was NO MANAGER, I would expect players to put in a performance against West Brom, Stoke, Northampton, Blackpool et al. But we didn't match these teams in any way (despite winning against WB).

We're dreadful, we were poor under Benitez but solid and no pushovers. Now we're there for the taking. Hodgson needs help at the very least and the push as a preference ......