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For weeks and weeks I have had to put up with rubbish and excuses from people telling me this waster Torres is just going through a bad time, that he's not getting any service or even better he does'nt like the manager, players or tea lady. After tonite there are no more excuses, the feller has gone, finished and is living off a past reputation. Nobody can say he does'nt get service because in games against Bolton, Spurs, West Ham and now Newcastle the man has had fantastic opportunities to score from one on ones and he has missed them all. Time to face the facts the man is sh*t, I have defended Hodgson this season and will continue to do so but tonite he made a massive error in bringing back this imposter, you should not try and fix something which is not broken and the team should of remained unchanged from the Aston Villa team. We need to start voicing our opinion whenever Torres takes to the field now as we dont want players like him and Mascherano before him whose hearts and minds are not with the Club, the quicker this man leaves the Club in January or the Summer the better because he is blatenly taking the p*ss out of every Liverpool fan who loves the Club, by just going through the motions on the pitch...

His value is shrinking by the week. If he goes to Barca or Madrid in a cut price deal I guarantee his form will miraculously recover in about 5 minutes. Needs a swift kick up the backside but that goes for the other charlatans masquerading as Liverpool players, as well

i find myself agreeing with you.only not in such a strong way.i stated in another thread my feelings about mr.torres.we rely heavily on Torres and his goals but we really shouldnt cos like u say he's gone.

I think Torres wants to go, hes wanted to go since the summer. It has been a simple case of him saying ok lets see how this season goes. And I think he knew from the moment city bagged there third past Reina it was season over.

I have to disagree to an extent. Torres does look frustrated, but he's not a Kuyt, he doesn't run around non-stop. He reacts to the game around him, he makes the run when there's something on, when there isn't, he just tends to maintain a position where he can be available for a better opportunity. That's how he's always been.

That does mean when there isn't anything on, you don't see much of him.

Yes, I agree he should put more effort in in those situations, he should drop back and chase the ball more, help bring the pressure.

But having said that, we don't know what his instructions are. Maybe he's been told not to drop back and to stay up front for the long ball in. I tend to think that may be the case, since I didn't see Roy telling him to do anything other than what he was doing.

I don't think he's gone yet, and I don't think he's just going through the motions. I do think he's frustrated and I do think he may well go if things continue as they are though.

Actually you dont have to put up with anything.If its that big a chore then theres th.....

fernando torres' performances aren't what worry me the most. the teams collective performance was p!ss poor especially in defence. i feel the manager is resting him too much when what he needs is continuity and more games especially after finding some form against chelsea. the fact our manager has won 12 away premier league games in his entire career as football manager is f*cking shocking. deep down we all know roy hodgson is a clown... we'll just have to suck it up and write the season off for another year, unless he and john w henry can work some miracles in january and the remainder of the season

Like it or not, Liverpool has lost its fear factor. These days, teams have a real go at us. And as they rightly should because we are shocking.

you get annoyed when a player doesnt play well but our [oops] poor manager employs shocking tactics you back him admit it you have a personal vendetta against torres youve done nothing but slate him you stay quiet until he has a bad game then come back who on the pitch today played no one yet you dont slate them you say roy will get the best out of them your a joke