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I personaly dont think Kelly deserved to be dropped as he did'nt do much wrong but as I said in one of my previous post there is alot of politics surrounding the team and unfortunately for Kelly he has been playing in the same position as a player who cost 20 million pound and is on 120 grand a week, only one winner unfortunately and it's not a footballing decision...

Wait Babel For Torres you are having a laugh right our top scorer in the league for ryan babel its clear the manager doesnt rate him so its not going to happen face it for as long as torres is at liverpool and fit he will start which he deserves to

fernando Torres looks like he is finished as the player he was two seasons ago either through injury or which it looks more likely through desire to put a decent performance's in , looking very much like owen was in his last season , and until he starts to produce the game he can then leave him out as his attitude is causing trouble for the team , as has been said for weeks people on here at the match and in the pub have tried to defend torres saying he hasn't got service , well he is now getting clear chances now week after week and going through the motions , if he doesn't want to play for LFC then leave before the club get nothing for you , his stock has really gone down he was arguable the best striker in the world he is now nowhere near that and unless he applies himself he will be finished not just at Liverpool but any other club he might choose to go to . as for Babel he actually played well against villa scored then gets dropped for the awful torres .

but there has to be some sort of underlying issue il admit he doesnt look the same player for us but what about his performances for spain in the wc and even now its the same body language now maybe he doesnt want to play for liverpool but surely he wouldnt do the same for his country it just makes me wonder whats really going on

He's been playing poorly for months. As others have said and what really has me losing patience with Roy is that he changed a winning side against Villa.

I would have accepted it far easier to have lost this way, at least he would have shown he had the stones to stick with the two young guys up front and it would have done them a load of good.

Instead it's get back on the bench. Can't see anything positive from the changes other than showing what we already knew. Torres doesn't deserve to play.

Sorry to say it`s time to cash in before he`s not worth a jot.

I would rest him and give him time out

Let the youngsters have a go

Exactly! And that's why it's a good idea to play Kelly in the middle since Skittles is so awful at the moment!



I think so too. The same argument could also be applied on the Torres issue.

One way of sorting those politics out would be to set the team up 4-3-3. That way neither of Babel, Torres, Johnson or Ngog would have to be benched! And as a result we would perhaps be able to play more offensive footie??!

Reina
Johnno - Kelly - Greek - Aurelio
Gerrard - Meireles - Cole
Ngog - Torres - Babel

or perhaps:

Reina
Johnno - Kelly - Greek - Aurelio
Gerrard - Meireles - Lucas
Ngog - Torres - Babel

snake eye, emp, reclaim. where do you think we would be if torres hadnt of played at all this season, hes had a huge hand in the amount of goals we have scored this season. The lad is short of confidence, thats clear to everyone. Has torres been a player who chases lost causes and has a work rate similar to kuyt? No he hasnt, he never has been. torres game is playing on the shoulders of the last man, being alert to anything that comes to him, whats the point in having torres running round like a lunatic only for him to be fooked when he does get played through on goal.

reclaim and emp, show the same support your giving to your grandad to the players on the pitch, hes given us so much joy yet you cant get behind him, mind you emp, cant can you when your sat at the sofa with a cup of tea and your grandads sweats


also emp, you posted where playing progressive football. You really make me laugh, most deluded fan ive ever come across, plain thick [oops] you are and clueless about the game

Not sure but i think i sensed some hostility in that post