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Originally Posted By: D500
If Rafa hadn't tried to sell Alonso to Juventus or whoever, last year, he might still have a relationship with him and this problem might not have arisen. Frankly, if you need to blame anyone, it's Rafa. As to the proposed replacement, another poster here or on another forum made a very good point regarding his injury record. It's alot of money that's being considered for a guy so injury prone. I'd prefer someone with experience of the PL - like Catermole, than the current favourite.

TBH I can't see us doing anything this season, anyway, beacuse we don't have the financial resources to compete with Chelsea and Man City. Until a richer owner takes charge we are always going to be looking at second class replacements. I don't see anyone else in for Aquilana or whatever his name is and that kind of tells its own story.

If we could lure (afford?) the At Madrid pair things might look rather different but, as it is, I think we just have to hope that we get in the top four and that something happens off the pitch in the meantime.Last year was our best chance and we couldn't put away the lower sides. Man U were a little lucky but then we allowed them to be. I look at our squad and apart from SG, JC and Torres I don't see a single player that would be a certain starter in the Chelsea or Arsenal team. I'm sure all of this has been said by a host of others and am posting in the hope that somebody will offer some contrary views that might persuade towards a more positive view.

Expect a tough season and don't be surprised if we lose to Spurs



Yes, well it is tough that that deal with barry fell through, and it had to turn out sour, maybe a blessing in disguise, but i think what we should bear in mind, is "WHO WAS XABI ALONSO BEFORE LIVERPOOL" when Xabi came to liverpool, non of us knew him, non of us expected anything, yet we ended up wining istanbul.
We all thought, o "[oops] here are some mid priced players no name guys coming to wear the red shirt" LOL

I agree with you in sense we cannot compete with money, all we got to do is repeat the way we played last year, just not draw those home games. Also Ronaldo is gone from United, they will feel the pinch. And we got keep torres fit:) Babel needs step up.

And fellow red, this is my attitude regarding players "YOU KNOW WHAT lfc is trying to achieve, if you do not have the same goals as LFC, and if your heart is elsewhere, please pack up and leave." And example of this is Fernando Torres, he is loyal and dedicated to the team.

I love mascherano, if mascherano want join Barca, fine pal, please go, put down 45million. we will find another.

We are LFC for heavens sake, we dont bow down to players that dont want to wear the red shirt!!

how can anyone say we will loose against spurs without giving the boys a chance??
Who gave us a chance at trafford last year? who gave us a chance against madrid? Milan?

aT LEAST TRY AND LOOK AT THE POSITIVES


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Rafa has been getting a lot of flak for the Alonso saga but there's always two sides to any story. None of us know what went on except whatever it was, it was fairly serious.

The season of 07/08 Xabi played like a carthorse! Who many of us thought that maybe it was better to have Barry and Gerrard playing together instead of Xabi at the time (be honest!)

If Rafa hadn't made moves to replace him and in effect put a rocket up Xabi's bottom, would we have seen the real Xabi of last season?

Xabi by his 100% improvement got back into the Spanish squad earning a European Champions medal and ended up having un-real sniffing and eventually buying him! And all credit to him for his character and efforts but also credit to Rafa and his staff!

I agree with InjunJoe when he wrote "who was Xabi before Liverpool"

Whether you agree with this opinion or not, you ought to remember that Xabi has improved enormously under Rafa and for that reason alone Xabi owes a lot to him professionally, if not personally.

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well bugga me! stop press...

Ayestarán loyalty helped seal Alonso's fate!

just shows what goes on behind the scenes eh? From reading that article Rafa was right to part with Ayestarán. And as a consequence, if that put Xabi's nose out then that's his problem but frankly it was also none of his business.

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yes, players do not get involved in managers battles:)


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If he is not happy, for what ever reason, he should be let go.

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hey joel. i see you from the land down under:) The wallabies:) lol

Im a springbok me mate, yea:)

Wana go into a scrum? lol

Lets give this aquilani a chance, rafa will turn him into a better player, just like he did with alonso.


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Hi Injun. Should be a good game this weekend. Wallabies are a better team than the last time we met. We shall see smile

Yes I agree we need to give him a chance. Rafa seems pretty confident that he will be good.

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what bout the wallabies? lol


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what about the Ashes! smirk all to play for now Joel

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Hey we can't win everything. Gotta give you lot something every now and then. smile

Wallabies........beaten by kicking, not play. Should be interesting when the boks come here.

Ashes......God help England when Freddie quits!

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