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The fact that Torres has more assists than anyone in the side should speak volumes for how inept our tactics are. That he also has the most goals should speak volumes for how valuable he is to us.

But logic doesn't work on people who aren't interested in how the truth differs from their opinion.

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Originally Posted By: ceb
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Ceb what are Torres strengths.? I know what they were a couple years ago but he aint got any of them now. No speed, poor control and poor attitude. You can change the last two but without the first one he`s avarage at best, unable to outrun any defenders this season.



right matty mi old china. im going to put this simply for you. torres is the best striker we could possibly want at this club. his goals speak for themselves. if you want to know how to play to torres strengths and here's the simple bit. GIVE HIM THE FUOOKING BALL IN 18 YARD BOX AND THE GUY WILL SCORE. not have him dropping deeper and deeper looking for the ball which must be frustrating for him therefore explains his attitude....


how any lfc fans can turn on torres baffles me. if roy or a new manager starts to play more attacking football, creating more chances nando will do the business....
Give him the ball in the 18 yard box like we did in the Bolton, West Ham and also the Spurs game and he will score? what plannet are you on, the man is a spent force it's painful watching him struggle game in game out and it has nothing to do with service because he is getting it also nothing to do with fitness because he has been playing. We need to cash in this January otherwise we will lose even more money by waiting until the Summer with his form and attitude getting worse by the game...

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RECLAIM......im going to tell you only once. so listen up, you and me have not crossed swords yet and i quite like it that way. ive no respect or even interest in what you've got to say. you come on here for nothing more than an argument. your opinion is so far off the mark it's untrue. you talk as if torres is the only striker to miss chances. one question to you RECLIAM THE MANC. did you celebrate when torres scored those 2 goals against Chelsea?......mmmmm.... wonder who else in our squad could have scored them.......NO-ONE!


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Out=54.5m
Johnson 13m
Konchesky free (pay whoever takes him)
Aurelio 3m
Babel 8m
Lucas 5.5m
Maxi 2m
Kuyt 9m
Carra free
Aqua 14m

In = 68m
Adam Johnson 13m
Contreao 15m
Lavezzi 12m
Mata 15m
Santi Cazorla 13m

Reina
Kelly Skrtel Agger Contreao

Gerrard
Mata Johnson
Cazorla Lavezzi
Torres

Subs:
Jones
Greek
Aurelio
Meireles
Cole
Shelvey
Pacheco

laugh

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would be nice johnny but think some of your values are a bit off the mark.

oh and if we sell Aurelio how can he be sub....


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Originally Posted By: ceb
RECLAIM......im going to tell you only once. so listen up, you and me have not crossed swords yet and i quite like it that way. ive no respect or even interest in what you've got to say. you come on here for nothing more than an argument. your opinion is so far off the mark it's untrue. you talk as if torres is the only striker to miss chances. one question to you RECLIAM THE MANC. did you celebrate when torres scored those 2 goals against Chelsea?......mmmmm.... wonder who else in our squad could have scored them.......NO-ONE!
Now I will tell you this just once so listen up, The Torres you are talking about has left the building, he shows up on odd occasions like you said in the Chelsea game then disapears for the next three or four. Please if you are going to reply to what I try to educate you with please be sensible, the Torres you are praising is from a few seasons ago and definately not the one we are seeing now so dont try and convince yourself it's the same one. I have no problem if strikers miss chances, none whatsoever but what I do have a big problem with is one who does'nt try and does'nt show the correct desire to play for my Club, the Torres we now see falls into this bracket.

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RECLAIM......im going to tell you only once. so listen up, you and me have not crossed swords yet and i quite like it that way. ive no respect or even interest in what you've got to say. you come on here for nothing more than an argument. your opinion is so far off the mark it's untrue. you talk as if torres is the only striker to miss chances. one question to you RECLIAM THE MANC. did you celebrate when torres scored those 2 goals against Chelsea?......mmmmm.... wonder who else in our squad could have scored them.......NO-ONE!
Now I will tell you this just once so listen up, The Torres you are talking about has left the building, he shows up on odd occasions like you said in the Chelsea game then disapears for the next three or four. Please if you are going to reply to what I try to educate you with please be sensible, the Torres you are praising is from a few seasons ago and definately not the one we are seeing now so dont try and convince yourself it's the same one. I have no problem if strikers miss chances, none whatsoever but what I do have a big problem with is one who does'nt try and does'nt show the correct desire to play for my Club, the Torres we now see falls into this bracket.


So last season rooney was at times un playable for manure,yet for england he looked totally out of sorts,now was that because he had left the building,or that one manager knew how to play to his strengths,and the other was too stubborn to adapt a different approach.If you have ever seen Torres play live,you will have noticed he is most effective running into the channels,competing for hoofs against two centre halves,is not what he is here for.Please stop wishing our best players away,this is LFC not fulham.

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well do me a favour then. WHEN torres smashes the winner in tomorrow night and you aparently being a real fan who goes to the games, dont bother celebrating his goal. you turn towards roy and say well done you've made him play well......


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Credit where it is due, well done Roy and the players for the win against Aston Villa.

But please people don't get carried away, we beat chelsea and everyone thought we turned a corner only to loose again. I will enjoy that win but we have 5 big games against mid/bottom of the table teams coming up so if we really have turned the corner we should beat them easily.

If we loose against Newcastle we'll be back to square one but i must admit it is a nice time to play them due to their owner being as crazy as our old G&H buddies.

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See i was right with my comment above, we win and people think we have turned a corner only to be let down again by losing to a mid table team.

I still think we need a whole clearout and that includes Roy, i know it is the players on the pitch but Alan Pardew had been at newcastle 4 days and still got them to beat us.

two words to that sum this feeling = FED UP

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