KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Damien Commolli a good move !.

You omitted the youth players we sold to Fulham, as well as the fact that Cole was free.

well jones, konchesky english or allowed to be english for starters ok poulson hasn't done much but is he a worse player than mascherano no not really ok masherano got about the pitch more but he couldn't pass could score so not much difference there wilson deal already agreed raul meireles a good player will get much better cole a free everyone was made up when cole signed , so there you go so according to everyone who loved Mr Benitez he spent no money because of this nonsense about NET and GROSS spend so the same must apply for Hodgson we got 20 milluion for the argentine so NET hodgson has spent nothing , or is it like i suspect one rule for Mr Benitez and another for Mr Hodgson. as for these youth players there were not going to play there has been loads who have been like them down the years and dalglish,evans houlllier and benitez got rid of them and these players are no different , Are they in fulhams team now NO so there is you answer players have to be extra special to come through the ranks now .

Using the same statistical sources used by the demented lych rafa benitez brigade, and emp (because he is so dumb he doesnt know what the word statistic means) so he cant even be included in that bunch... ie the false comparisons taken from the times and the comparison of ferguson taking over a rubbish manunited team in november against werthers original taking over a team in the summer and having a better larger squad, it can be shown that while benitez who spent what was it again? 7.5 billion pounds on players over 6 years, (whilst on net spend it was more like +35million pounds) it can be shown that game for game performance/finance ratio hodgson is a total failure.
25 million spent on players. 14 games played so far, thus he has spent over one million shiny pounds per game and yet we can't beat teams like blackpool who have virtually nothing to spend each season. And you can't even do a hodgson net spend comparison because he gives players away as well as lfc money to buy players worse than the existing ones. I can't see them giving him money unless they take some control over tactics off him at the same time.

benitez spent in excess of 200-300 million and couldn't beat barnsley or reading or arsenals reserves

Can we agree that they are both sh!t

Yet with a net spend of only 35 million over 6 seasons thrashed Real Madrid 4-0, beat Man U 4-1 at Old Trafford, and beat some shabby Italian team in Istanbul on penalties. Which way we reading the Rafa book again?

On the other hand Roy has done ... erm ... tell you what, lie to me some more about how amazing Hodgson is.

I don't particularly care about Rafa, but you're using the wrong argument by making any comparison whatsoever with the "waiter" if you're serious about showing how good Roy is. Maybe you also can't see that priest on his mountain of sugar.

That old chestnut NET ok so why cant that apply now ? or is it just because it was benitez ?

So roy does not expect us to beat Spurs with a squad worth that much

What are you talking about? Go back a few posts and you'll see where I point out Roy has done no better with his net spend, and how it's irrelevant anyway because having no investment forces you to shop in the wrong market if you're looking for world beaters. Tell you what, I'll quote myself to save you the trouble:


You also can't say "Rafa is so useless in the transfer market which is why we lost to Barnsley"; there isn't any correlation between these thoughts at all, especially since Rafa won the CL with the same squad that lost to Barnsley.

As little as 10 months ago we beat Spurs comfortably, yet now our manager is so terrified of playing them he's making excuses even before the opening whistle. That has nothing to do with net spend or gross spend or spend of any kind; it has to do with the loser mentality our manager has. You won't find that in any manager at the top level, except HRH Hodgson, he who can do no wrong as long as he remains English.

As worthwhile and fullfilling it must be to argue over the is it isn't it net spend of our current and previous manager to debate which w=one was worst, all the facts actually point to is that Roys first attempt at spending money didn't work that well (though I do think Raul will turn out to be a good buy).

Surely the point must relate to our current manager and discussions of Rafa deemed rather pointless.

Point 1. If Roy is only ever gonna get £20ish mil a year, (down to zero on net) to spend then I don't much care how good he is in the bargain basement as no-one would turn us into champions on that.
Point 2. If he gets given proper money to spend then we currently don't know how he'll spend it but my feelings are that he isn't the right man to spend it, but that's conjecture.


At this stage of his reign there are no absolutes. He might succeed he might fail, given a huge budget he might be wise he might not, are we in a position where we can take that risk? I say no, get someone proven in