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you have to treat managers fairly and give them an equal chance, for that reason give Roy what Houllier and Benitez got given in time and money and then judge him, thats the fairest way...

The fairest way may not always be the best way though! It's quite easy to see that there has been no improvement and the style of football Roy and previously Rafa (for some part) is not attack minded. Could you imagine playing defensive football each time you go out to play? It would scare the sh1t out of you because you have sustain more and more pressure which then creates panic and leads you to the position we are in now....If Roy were to set out a side that plays attacking football, to win games and take sides on (especially those of equal or lesser standing than us) then I'm sure there wouldn't be as many complaints as there are now and supporters wouldn't be calling for him to be sacked.
In my opinion, if Roy is given as long as Houllier and Rafa then we will become regular middle of the road sides that strive to play in the Europa comp or possibly even be relegated. We need a new manager and I don't think Kenny would be the answer either.
Not saying that these two are the best around but I think Rijkaard or Pellegrini would be a decent shout of what is currently available at the moment!

Pellegrini isn't that offensive minded either.

Was sacked from Real 'cause they didn't play entertaining footy!

Ring any bells?

Thats Right about Pellegrini he is very defensive and dont forget he has won nothing the same as Roy, I honestly think fans are brain washed into thinking because he is foreign he must be good, which is a load of nonesense. Liverpool have been sinking for years now so it's not a new thing we have never been one of the best two teams in the country for over 20 years so it's no blip just reality.

We finished 2nd 2 seasons ago?....Ahh dont worry about that though

2nd yes but realisticaly everybody knew we were never going to win it from January onwards

There lies some truth in what You're saying, Reclaim, but You said we hadn't been among the 2 best in PL for over 20 years!

Also, to be honest, Pellegrini has achieved some good results:

1) Won the Ecuadorian first league with 'Liga de Quito' 1999.
2) Won the Argentinian first league with 'San Lorenzo' and 'River Plate'.
3) Quarter final in the UEFA Cup 2005 and Semi final in the CL 2005/2006 with 'Villareal' (The 2 biggest achievements for the club so far).
4) 2:nd place in La Liga 2007/2008 with 'Villareal' (best ever for the club).

Anyway: Since we all want to see offensive, attacking footie, I think Mr Pellegrini is out of the question. Plays about the same game as Sven-Goran Eriksson and Fabio Coppello. Not for LFC, thanks!

When I say best two am not talking about a few one off second finishes am talking about first or second best team in the Country overall and since we last won it all those years ago the best two teams have been United with Arsenal and then United with Chelsea, we have stayed in the title race after xmas just once in 20 years or more and that was the other season even then United were always going to win it.

I am sure its roy under the name of few of the posters!!! Pellegrini is not attacking minded? lol

You guys know nothing of football not only did he play some of best football at villareal but, he only did manage to score over 100 goals with real but of course that is not attacking minded football yeah?

I wonder how he did that being such a defensive coach enlighten us? please we need your knowledge of the game!!!!

All i read is things need to be fair fair fair give roy a chance? would you shut the hell up!!! your like bunch of girls.

This is life, life is hard you hardly ever get second chances on big stage.(great example of this would be world cup for some countries one chance and they not in it for another 40 years)
you think they can just say give it time?

But lets use a better example, of your boring, silly excuse of give roy time.

Ok give him time why not give poulsen time then? why do so many roy supports slag him off? give him time then? support poulsen. you hypocrites.

Ah thats it you only want to choose when to support some one when you feel your rite?? ah yeah thats it roy is legend and needs time but poulsen is [oops]? or lets name a few i have no doubt people have slagged of or should i say roy supporters.

Want to see you sing poulsen praise this weekend yeah? and jova

Thanks for that.