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#89130 16/11/10 07:42 PM
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The striker wo has reportdly said he wants out is pacheco ive heard, anyone else heard this?

If so this is a big loss than alot will realise, it shows that the young and talented have to leave liverpool to get a chance, he has great potential. This was coming tho, Hodgson doesn't even give him a chance.


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Wouldn't blame lad for wanting to get first team football. Too exciting a player for Roy. Shame.

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I can see a £20m player in pacheco it make's me so angry that he's not given a sniff of a chance just because he's not english.
It seem's to me if you have a good football brain and two skilled feet like Agger and Pacheco then your day's are numbered at liverpool.
As a person Woy seem's a nice guy but i fear the long term damage
That he will inflict if young quality player's are let go to fund
Older English player's like Crouch or Upson .

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RH is a lunatic

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Both this manager and previous manager didnt think he was either ready or good enough. Every time I've seen the lad play he's like a headless chicken.

Its the same set of people who not long back were calling for Babel to get a "run in the team"

People like Hodgson and Rafa are doing what they do for a reason. Just like we do what we do by posting on here.

I know who's judgement I'd rather trust.


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Ok he runs round like a headless chicken but talent is obvious he just needs to learn to contain things abit and control himself, with some confidence i think he would be great.

He's young, show him what he's doing wrong because the potential is there.


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He's getting coached on a daily basis.

He's either not taking it in or he's just a player who showed potenial but unfortunately just hasnt lived up to all the early hype.

Rooney and Fabregas were all ready established by his age.


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To be honest id be surprised if there is any attacking player that doesn't want out.

What forward thinking player in their right mind would want to play for Roy Hodgesons Liverpool. We have no need for adventurous players or ones that can do more than hoof the ball anymore unfortunately. frown

The new mantra is old, slow and crap with an ability to defend at ALL times against ALL teams while still being able to let in goal after goal.

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'Everytime I've seen him play.' Obviously you've not watched him enough then. His passing, dribbling and off-the-ball movement is excellent. You are forgetting the game when Pacheco came on and looked our brightest spark with his pass and move style.

So you'd trust a man who wont even give a talented player like Pacheco a bench place but gives a donkey like Konchesky 1st team starts and is willing to have a no-talent player like Poulson in there too from time to time. Hilarious stuff. And babel is still getting playing time like in the last game even though he should never have played again after his embarrassing performance in the Northampton game, Babel get's playing time, yet Pacheco doesn't. That's Roy logic for you and Naïve people like you believe he must know what he's doing. There's another side to that coin, that he actually doesn't know what he's doing, that much is clear already.

People doing things for a reason and being right are two different things, so stop talking nonsense and equating them. Roy knows more than the under 19 spanish coaches and manager I guess too in your eyes. Poulson and Konchesky are world beaters in disguise worthy of a Liverpool place but Pacheco who's a golden boot winner shouldn't even get a bench place. Pathetic.

When he isn't leaving talented players out and giving lame ducks like Poulson and Konchesky a go, he's alienating players like Johnson with stupid comments and blaming Reina for what was Konchesky's mistake in the media. Rafa wasn't any better, sold off and alienated (Alonso) good players and brought in 2nd rate garbage, so his judgement of ability wasn't great either. And don't give me your usual garbage of Torres, Alonso, Reina. Rafa didn't discover them, they were already top players in La Liga before Rafa even sniffed around them, and anyone who knew anything about world football at the time (you hadn't heard of Alonso as you admitted on shoutbox to me) Torres had been banging goals in for years with 214 appearences, Alonso was already known as a great passer and midfielder, and Reina was already known as being a top keeper for Villarreal. All known quantites and in his own backyard. Still hilarious that you weren't familiar with some of them though as you told me 3 weeks ago on the shoutbox (amongst the insults, changing of the suject and clear lack of debating skills or football knowledge)

Going back to Roy, he is utterly out of his depth with poor man-management skills and nil media savvy. This crackpot has already swopped 2 of our youngsters in a deal for that donkey Konchesky. Roy needs to go before he causes more harm. It's idiots like you who will keep him in his job and have us stay in mediocrity.

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I'm sorry but you bored me after the first sentence in the 2nd paragraph.

Comparing Pacheco to either Knochesky and Poulsen just highlights your limited knowledge of football. How can you compare a forward with a left back or defensive midfielder?

I'd rather take Roy and Rafas view on Pacheco than yours.

Hope that doesnt upset you?


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