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Exactly, where to afraid at the moment to put say pacheco in. Ideally you want to have him in a side that's playing well and winning games rather than having to dig in and grind results out

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The last time I really enjoyed watching Liverpool play the type of football I like was probably Roy Evans team with Fowler and Collymore up front. It's no coincidence that that style of football was for me the closest we have come to actualy winning the title, I know we have since finished second a couple of times and also secured more points but for me even so the belief that we were going to win it was never there because on each occasion United always looked like winning it even though it looked closer than what it was. I think up until we got beat by Coventry at home that season in 96 we actualy looked like we could win it, we were already beating United quite regulary in one off games and more importantly beating them with United style football.

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Quite honestly, style is not a requirement in modern football. That said, a team with players of a fine understanding of one another's strengths and weaknesses, coached by someone who understands how to pick the team and tactics that best enhance the strengths while covering the weaknesses, will play attractive or at the very least effective football. When your side just clicks together it really doesn't matter to the fans whether you're playing route 1 ball or have copied Barcelona; supporting a winning side is easy. Quality remains quality, even if it isn't always pretty.

Some of the issues with our tactics right now (and prior to this season, though in a different way) is that we've stuck with the same plan despite the fact that the weaknesses in the side undermine the strengths to too large a degree, rather than finding a more suitable tactic, line-up, and/or formation. Last season we were trying to play exactly the same attacking game as the season before, but were relying on Mascherano and Lucas as the midfield brains trust. But they simply failed as a partnership every time they were on the pitch together because they have as much creativity between them as a tree, and NO ONE WAS COMPENSATING for that.

This season Roy decided the solution was to become a defensive unit using an attacking team in an attacking formation, while combining Paulsen (who is worse than Mascherano in every possible way) and Lucas (who is not the best defensive player out there). The link between our defenders and forwards has been irrevocably broken, and frankly unless Gerrard or Meireles were tasked with the linking role from day one there was never much hope of success, unless we changed everything and played 4-4-2 and stuck with it until we got it right.

To be honest, when Roy said it would take time to get used to his methods, I expected him to move us completely away from Rafa's tactics and setup - throw everything out the window and start fresh. Maybe we would still be in the same league position as we are now, but 3 months of playing to a pattern that gradually improves as the players become accustomed to it and to each other will yield long term results. It would have mollified fans like myself who care more that we look like we know what we're doing on the pitch than the result; in this scenario it's much easier to agree that LFC never fires a manager.

I know hindsight is perfect, but maybe Roy should have looked at the terrible fixture list and said 'I don't care if we lose 6 in a row, let's get this bunch playing as a team again'. But instead Roy just tried to mash his ideas and Rafa's together, and I just don't get the feeling that we've made any real progress despite winning last time out. All that happened was we won on the strength of having 11 superior players on the pitch; that's not going to be enough every week. We're a shadow of the side we were, and that horrifies me.

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Originally Posted By: liverbirdlain
We have played reasonable footie in the past but this season as been poo! too defensive which breeds nerves that causes mistakes that then produces lack of confidence and so it goes around and round starts with roys defensive tactics me thinks cry

That was painful to watch,just like the rest of the games but no end in sight to the s...e

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We haven't had a manager who like to play football since Roy Evans - you could say at this stage we have a cultural problem with good football.

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like i said in a thread i made this week but got mysteriously removed? square pegs in round holes... meireles NOT a winger,Maxi needs to go now hes useless and NOT a winger

im blaming rafa for our winger crisis he gets rid of albert reira a winger who would happily hug the touchline and get down the line and make things happen, unsettles alonso for going after gareth fat arse i cant run barry, the barry deal doesnt come off alonso is rightly [oops] off, alonso leaves floodgates open rafa loses the plot he is as much to blame as hodgson

oh and spending 17m on johnson and 20 on aquilani when he could have bought strikers to replace keane,crouch,bellamy whom he scandalously let go and replaced them with..............NGOG!!!! DOHHH!


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''don't '' and '' know'' 2 words so close to your heart...

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LOL i slightly went off subject but it all links to why we are not playing good football NOW!!
AND ARE RESORTING TO HOOF BALL


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What was that thing rafa used to always say when he first arrived

' we play a good game ' yeah he'd have got us the point and brought us onwhere fast but we'd have been looking forward to a good european night in a couple of weeks

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Originally Posted By: emp
oh no u can't say those things about rafa..he would of got a 0-0 draw today don't u know
he would of and Rafa would of been beaten 1-0 by Wigan instead of getting a draw so it's swings and roundabouts...

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