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Didn`t take long for this topic to arrive so closely after last weeks praising of the lad. How anybody can pick out Lucas from the shower that played against Wigan is beyond me.? The guy has arguably been our most reliable player this season and continues to show progress, but hey it`s easier to say Lucas is [oops] than saying Gerrard was crap or Reina, Torres or any other so called hero has failed to perform, doesn`t make you look clever just stupid IMO

he might have enjoyed a better run of games but i wont hesitate at all to second joelkeeper on this....he was utter [oops] against wigan...the whole team might have played [oops] after 20 mins...but he has been our best player,,why was he not able to deliver a 3 yards pass even....i cant just accept him...not a regular starter to say the least...

Mujtaba, I would agree that I would prefer him to be back up to a couple of quality midfielders but where are they.? Cole, Jovanavic, Babel, Poulsen, Shelvey, Spearing, Maxi(who I like by the way) IMO none of these are better and more reliable players than Lucas at present.
It maybe that his past performances are colouring your judgement here.? seems a bit harsh to single one gut out who has been an easy tartget in the past.

Agree on this, if we had enough good players Lucas won't see action

It's because our squad is too small! Or maybe the pitch is the wrong shape at wigan

You should wipe your mouth every time you speak coz you talk so much sh*t. If you had'nt noticed the problem people are talking about is not wether Roy is a bad manager it's wether he or any manager taking over any club in disaray should be treated the way he has been after just ten games in charge, the answer being no. Then you have balloon's like you coming on and saying the ones who want to give the guy a chance and see what he can do are the ones wrong because they are in the minority, I suppose your a Tory as well are you because seeing as you back the majority and say they are the ones who are right with the minority automaticaly wrong they must be the right ones to govern the Country.

'No'? Really? Pass me some of what you're smoking, cos it must be the good stuff, mate.

Roy asked to be judged after 10 EPL games. I didn't ask that; he did. Just to recap, after 8 of those EPL games we were the laughing stock of the premiership, though maybe you didn't notice that. Prior to the 9th game there was a general air of discontent about the squad AS A RESULT OF THE CURRENT REIGN, so much so that the normally quiet Pepe Reina had something to say about it (ie whatever disarray existed when Roy signed was largely solved by him keeping most of the senior players and the club being sold was gone, but had been replaced with a different kind of disarray). That weekend we "miraculously" played some decent football (presumably due to some behind-the-scenes action), managing to beat a pathetic Blackburn side at Anfield. The following week we were pretty poor at Bolton, but they were worse and you can only beat what's in front of you. At this point the mighty LFC was 12th in the league - it's lowest position for, well, I'll let you work it out, even though I know you won't because you're too busy being high on the fact that the LFC manager is English (or some other reason that has nothing to do with football).

I hoped we'd turned the corner with the Chelsea game, but Wigan looked much like more of the same rubbish as before; ie Roy isn't learning the lesson that this is not a side that can expect a result by going out to defend. He's had 20 games in all competitions so far, so something as simply as that should have dawned on him by now, were he a decent enough manager for LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB. Cos that's who we are, in case you'd forgotten (not Fulham or some other pile from the lower reaches of the league).

Face it. Our last few managers have been sacked for lesser sins than those that that Roy has committed, and continues to commit.

Roy will never live managing Fulham down will he? Why don't people just forget he ever managed Fulham. Even if he was doing really well I think the majority would still be moaning about this fact. He's in a no-win situation. Nobody wanted the job back in the summer. He put himself on the line by taking the job (and yes I know he gets paid well to do it).
Under the circumstances he's not done that bad. And no I'm not a supporter of Roy. I was disappointed when he was declared manager. But realistically at the time that was all we could have really expected. I guess most people expect José to be managing the team and an all-star line up! LFC has not become an attractive prospect overnight. We are where we are because of bad management from the board in the past, because of greedy owners, egotistical managers and capricious footballers.
Patience please. I do understand we all want success cos we're fed up with all the drama around the club and fed up with average performances and let's be honest some pretty boring football. But hey as suggested in another topic I am not changing the habit of a lifetime and changing the club I've supported all my life. I'm just fed up with the circus that football has become and it would seem LFC are bang right in the centre of it. And I don't like it at all. The club deserves so much more than that.

Roy will never live managing Fulham down will he? Why don't people just forget he ever managed Fulham.

How about being instrumental in getting the richest club in the league at the time relegated,spending £20m(1997)in the process?
Should we just forget that as well.

[b]a manager who has managed so long and in so many different countries[/b]

And has managed to acheive what exactly?