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Really? I seem to recall making several posts that I was pleased we'd won against Chelsea and that Roy deserved at least some credit for it. I said I wasn't about to start calling for his head (and I'm not) but he needed to show we'd really turned the corner; one game doesn't make a season. Don't seem to have heard you mentioning much about how awful Torres is, though....

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Bringing on Poulsen shows we've not turned the corner, does it? Went to Wigan to defend shows we've not turned the corner, does it? One point is better than none, but "squad lacks depth" is not the right excuse for being unable to realize that Shelvey is not a wing, that Poulsen is not LFC standard, and that most teams try to win their away games against teams who traditionally finish lower on the table. Why do the WBAs, the Blackpools, and the Chelsea's come to Anfield to win, even when they don't get that result (or even deserve to think about 3 points), but our away plan is to escape with a point?

In 90 minutes Roy undid all our momentum with his defensive optimism, and again blamed the squad for his failure. Some man manager. But I'm not calling for his head yet. We still have another away game this weekend, and small squad or not we need the 3 points.

Wigan and Stoke are not such powerhouses that we should be happy with a point in any conditions, least of all because we had a few games in two weeks. If Roy's upset about having too few players maybe he should be giving those he's not seen a few more chances, or should have bought more players during the window with that money he didn't spend. He's try to play 80s football, when we went out with our best 14 every week and still won the title, but now he says the squad is too small instead of actually rotating it to get the best out of his players. I mean, N'Gog is still our top scorer this season, but when last did he start a game? Still comes back to the manager, doesn't it?

Why do you use that?People commenting on the game?Roy bottled it at half time made the wrong substitutions and generally changed it for the worst.We played poorly and got a point.

Just when you think we can go there and rip them apart after that fantastic performance, another poor result for us.

Its not the results for me its the level of belief from Roy

He is ultra defensive and lacks ambition for me

His away record doesn't lie and if anyone thinks that being Liverpool manager will make him change that approach is in for a shock.

This approach works for smaller teams where the majority of their points comes from home games, any point away from home is a bonus. But this is not going to get you top 5 in the league. I still believe that we need new direction in the managers seat over xmas.

Because he's the only muppet on here. Some people take a distorted pride from spouting the most tripe. Roy's the same come to think of it

Only got to watch short highlights of the game and it looked like for first 20minutes we were in control and prob should of been 2-0 up but then it started to go wrong and the lads just decided to stop playing the same way.

The only bonus is that no one really got a good result in relation to us, the table is as it was and we're only 5points of 4th spot. This whole season is going to be very tight, if we can get to January and still be in the mix for 4th spot and get some reinforcements for the wings and the forward line then who knows what could happen.

What happened was, they went in at half time and Roy said "no no nooo your doing it all wrong, we don't go for the win away, are you mad!!"

Think about it, we were decent in the 1st half and we were winning, after roys talking too and changes it went wrong.

Against Chelsea, we played superb in the first half, after half time we went defensive after Roy had said we need too just protect 2 goals.

I think attacking football scares him and makes him uncomfartable.

what was the problem last night? passes going astray,passes across our own face of goal,high balls to torres,wingers who do not beat his man....very frustrating to watch we looked awful at times it was sad to see

wigan had nzogbia down one wing and i think cleverley down the other all busting a gut to get to the byline and put crosses in, whereas all we had was martin kelly and sometimes gerrard doing that

impression i got was square pegs in round holes again.
is maxi really a winger? is meireles really a winger? shelvey is he a winger?? it all looked very dodgy

hodgson gets rid of a young bright winger in alex kacaniklic to fulham to get konchesky,rafa fobbed off riera too, i look forward to the time the likes of raheem sterling get given their chance now he is a proper winger, not one that drifts inside with no pace

its a bit of a mess at the moment, yes 5 games unbeaten is all good but wigan should have won

Hodsgon is a one trick pony, we have known this all season. The key to recent wins has been to press further up the pitch forcing mistakes and allowing the creative players to get on the ball nearer the goal. If you do sit back you should keep it tight and break fast. We are neither breaking fast or keeping it tight. Konchesky is ok if he is not put under pressure too often, so why sit on your own box an expose your weaknesses. Regardless of results we have been outplayed in the majority of the games this season.

poor manager

roy can take a weaker team out against a atronger team, but cant do the opposite. wrong man for liverpool.