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Brian #88004 10/11/10 08:32 AM
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These days it is player power. Contracts are not respected and with mercenary agents prostituting their clients, the face of football has changed forever.

I dont begrudge players who want to win things. That is the nature of world's best. They want to win every game and at the end, your trophies define your short career.

Loyalty is a rare rare commodity. Money talks big time and it is about time we get our heads screwed on right to see this.

dasil12 #88011 10/11/10 02:34 PM
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I think we agree that the bigest evil in football is money...players wanting to earn more, agents wanting to make as much deals as they can - because they want to earn more, owners put the tickets prices up - because they want to earn more...do you want to earn more? - I think you do...So I understand player, espetially not local, who wants do earn as much money as they can - because it's his job - it's great if it's also his passion, but sometimes for some players - it's just a job.


BUT

I don't understad why players who has biding contracts whinig. If you want go - talk to your employee, find an agreement and just f@ck off! Don't go to the press and cry that you don't like this and don't like that and you want to go (which mean in most cases "if you don't give me payrise - I will be whining more and more..."). Don't talk about it - do it. I will have no regrets to Torres or Pepe or Gerrard if they will have fantastic season, Torres and Gerro will score a bunch of goals, but the disposition of others will let down our club and we will be mid-table team (or even i Europa League) and our new owners will not give signs of improovement - and after that season they will leave - but please - stop whining!

Brian #88028 10/11/10 05:20 PM
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The trouble is these player's have never had to wipe their own arse's so any hardship to them is not acceptable and let's be honest most of these player's will never do a day's work in their life time.
While some of my friend's have been made redundent and battled to pay a morgage or have had to take on an extra job to pay the bill's.
I think cee dee's coment's are spot on and the attitude of today's
footballer is one of greed and care nothing about the club's and fan's unlike the Sir Stanley Mathiews or Le Tissier's of day gone by.
Sad to say but it could be the end of true football legend's as we used to know !.

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There are goods and bads when player sulk. They came to Liverpool to win trophies and establish themselves as part of a football club that opponent fears whenever their club is being mentioned. The enormous history this club holds attracts players like Torres and Reina. They are the key players for Liverpool so far. They have been outstanding throughout their stay in Liverpool. I would understand if player their capability sulking but not the likes of Babel, Poulsen or even Kuyt. They are just mediacore type of players who i feel should be shown the exit doors if they do. Players like Riena, Torres and Gerrard are massive for our club and so their voice will be heard whenever issues are being brought up which need to be resolved. We all know that the squad need strengthening but we cant do anything about it but pray. Hope the new owners will listen and do something about it and stop those empty promises to buy quality players and build new stadium.


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Afad #88042 10/11/10 07:50 PM
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And by the way, to compare an office type of environment to a competitive sports is like comparing apples to oranges. Nobody cares if you work hard or less as long as the work gets done. But in football, the supporters care. Winning trophies especially the league is what we crave for. To get the work done we need to strenghten the squad and buy quality players. Period!

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Afad #88081 10/11/10 11:23 PM
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What the sulking little S***s don't realise is if all the best players went to play with all the other best players the team would have 33 players on the field! they cant all play at the same time on the same pitch so let the prima Donna's go where they like i am sick of sulkers,ok they want win trophies, but don't we all! play for the shirt or P**s off . Rant over! grin


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CeeDee #88096 11/11/10 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: CeeDee
Why is it that footballers continue to insult their team mates by saying that if everyone else around them dosent do better they are going to leave, and get away with it?

All this "If we don't qualify for the Champion's League, i'm off" attitude seems like a real poke in the eye for the rest of the team....a sort of "you lot drag me down and aren't worthy of my services"

Imagine strolling into the office tommorow and saying over the office loud speakers... "you lot are rubbish at your jobs and if you don't get better and/or management don't bring in better people I'm off"..."Im too good to be working with you people"!!. The atmosphere would be pretty cold in the staff room!!!

Can it be any different in the changing room when players take that attitude to thier colleagues?

It has been pointed out to me in the past "there's no I in team"...sadly in football there is definetly a ME!!!!'


I can understand why players would want to move if the team is poor. i know its not the same and its a totally different world but a few seasons ago i was asked to play for a friends team. i wasnt too happy with the standards of players playing for our team and i was fed of of looking at our team and looking at the others and thinking i wish i was playing for them. i couldnt wait for the season to finish so i could get out and come back the following season with my own team. it felt alot better going into a game knowing you got good players beside you and you have a chance of doing well in the league and cup competitions. i know its not the same but i can understand their point of view

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Originally Posted By: Afad
There are goods and bads when player sulk. They came to Liverpool to win trophies and establish themselves as part of a football club that opponent fears whenever their club is being mentioned. The enormous history this club holds attracts players like Torres and Reina. They are the key players for Liverpool so far. They have been outstanding throughout their stay in Liverpool. I would understand if player their capability sulking but not the likes of Babel, Poulsen or even Kuyt. They are just mediacore type of players who i feel should be shown the exit doors if they do. Players like Riena, Torres and Gerrard are massive for our club and so their voice will be heard whenever issues are being brought up which need to be resolved. We all know that the squad need strengthening but we cant do anything about it but pray. Hope the new owners will listen and do something about it and stop those empty promises to buy quality players and build new stadium.
Unfortunately the days when Liverpool Football Club struck fear into opposition was about 20 years ago, because of this the reason we wont be holding onto players like Torres and Reina is because they are now fair game for much bigger stronger Clubs.

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I agree. So bye2 Torres and Reina! Unless the owners do something in January.


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