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I didn't say Everton were dire - we were. But they've hardly set the world alight with their quality of play this season, have they? We were bad against an average side, but victory would have been "utopia"? Nah - that game and its aftermath were a disaster.
Chelsea was a totally different game tho. We played well both halves, and while they bossed possession in the second we kept a clean sheet. Maybe we were creaking at the knees a bit, cos they have some serious attacking talent, but we were equal to the task.
What was different? Why, everything was different.
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I didn't say Everton were dire - we were. But they've hardly set the world alight with their quality of play this season, have they? We were bad against an average side, but victory would have been "utopia"? Nah - that game and its aftermath were a disaster.
Chelsea was a totally different game tho. We played well both halves, and while they bossed possession in the second we kept a clean sheet. Maybe we were creaking at the knees a bit, cos they have some serious attacking talent, but we were equal to the task.
What was different? Why, everything was different. you say Toma'y'to I say Tom 'ar' to
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Your thick mate, so he never motivated his teams to that type of performance. All fairness it was the crowd that motivated the players not Roy either dim wit. Especially up until the first goal, we started like we had all season, sat on are 18yard box. that's not fair. everyone blames him when we lose, then when we beat the champions 2 nil roy's got nothing to do with it? my point being was swede that when the whistle blew Liverpool where set up and ready to play how we have been all season, when the goal went in the crowd went to a even higher level and the team responded. We didn't get a kick or out of our half for 10 mins so to say we came out of the blocks cus Roy told them to is wrong. When that first goal did go in that's when we did see some confidence in our play as the crowd an the team where up for it and only then did we start to get amongst them. That's why I was so fustrated 2nd half because we sat back and it could of costed us on another day, yes we where playing Chelsea and your not going to dominate a full game but we needed spells in that second half where we had the ball for longer periods of the game, and we shouldn't be doing it at all against the likes of your blackpools etc etc
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youre ignoring of course that player for player, chelsea have a better team. of course we have to sit back at times, but as long as youre two up and do it succesfully, whats the problem. even when we beat them in 2005 we had to sit back, and they had chances, but thats how it is against the top team in england. we beat them two nil, and for every missed chance, we also had a missed chance. noone on this forum is in the dressing room so noone knows what goes on. Therefore, we have been judging the manager on performances on the team. it has been all well and good berating him when we are sh*t, but youre not even giving him partial credit for a good performance and thats wrong. its actually inexplicable.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria He came from Barca, to bring us Joy He's five foot seven, he's football heaven please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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I didn't say Everton were dire - we were. But they've hardly set the world alight with their quality of play this season, have they? We were bad against an average side, but victory would have been "utopia"? Nah - that game and its aftermath were a disaster.
Chelsea was a totally different game tho. We played well both halves, and while they bossed possession in the second we kept a clean sheet. Maybe we were creaking at the knees a bit, cos they have some serious attacking talent, but we were equal to the task.
What was different? Why, everything was different. I was really made up with yesterday especialy for Roy and the unfair stick he has been getting. I did think we played well yesterday but I would just like to put things into perspective a bit between the Everton second half and yesterdays, although Everton are not a better side than Chelsea, there is no way Chelsea are the same side without Drogba, Essien and Lampard so we probably never had a better chance of beating them. Dont forget Liverpool playing a match at Goodison Park is a bit more difficult than playing a match against Chelsea as it's not as intense, fast or Physical than playing in a Derby.
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Flames I am delighted that we beat the champions but I'm just looking at the bigger picture, we've played exactly the same way against Chelsea as we have against Birmingham, Blackpool, sunderland, utd, city, everton, Bolton, west brom the only exeption is Blackburn when we did go out at them from the start.
But its no coincidence that we've put in good shifts againt arsenal and chelsea and got 4 points from these two games because everyone is on generally more motivated anyway because it's a big game. If your saying Roy got them playing that way through motivation id laugh in your face, if the players need motivating when your playing against arsenal an Chelsea at home then where in deep Shiite.
Players are more likely to turn up in these games than they are when playing blackpool etc Thats why I'm not letting this win paint over the cracks because it's against the weaker teams where we've stuggled because he's using the same tactics and not got a plan b on how to play against other sides where we should comfortably beat them.
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O and flames, I haven't been just berating him when we have lost, I'm just generally shocked by the football that we play under him. Like in my thread these next 3 games will show us wether Roy has got the balls to go to Wigan and go for the 3points an at stoke and west ham at home
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i agree the win doesnt fix everything. i disagree that we played the same in the chelsea game as we did in the blackpool game, that makes no sense whatsoever. you've a bit of travelling to do before you laugh in MY face young whipper snapper. stop being so grumpy, it was the most we could have hoped for. smile like this  and say COME ON YOU RED MEN!!! the wold is depressing enough as it is.
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"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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I was smiling yday when i was running past the Chelsea tw@ts.
To make you happy, il give credit to Roy to pick the team most would of do e considering the late injurys, and for moving kuyt to right wing.
That's all he's getting
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Ok we didn't play like we did v blackpool we still got a good Tw@ting tho lol
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