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i would stay because im not a money grabbing scabby spaniard who has no layalties ...

but hey ...

thats just me ...

you sound like just another blind xenophobe.... you make it out like every person in the world who is not made of 200% loyalty is scum, but you'll find it's very rare that any person in any profession who either has any pride in his ability or any ambition in his career will chose a backward company over a progressive one. there are people who will do this (eg Steven Gerrard) but it is they who are in the minority. dying for the shirt as a one-club footballer is so eighties. i'm not saying i agree with it, but one has to keep the perspective that the world has changed, and the club needs to move with the times if it wishes to remain competitive.

Wow very optimistic! Really I think there's quite a lot to look forward to right now. We no longer have all that debt hanging over our heads, more than most clubs can say. We make pretty good profits and we don't have owners playing monopoly! I would not say things look so gloomy but hey that's just me.

I wonder sometimes if some people can ever really be pleased. Give an inch take a mile attitude. Sorry you need to take it easy.

I agree I think they will possibly move but not January more likely the Summer. I think Reina has a bit more feeling for the Club than Torres but having said that none of them actualy love the Club because they are both Spaniards and see us as a job like all footballers do, if they never played for us they would be playing for someone else. I think both need to be playing Champions League football and competing for the games major honours at this stage of there careers and we will not be providing that platform now or in the foreseeable future for them unfortunately.

Suprised you've not said you want reina to go because he's let to many in!!

Anyway, reinas commitment to the club shown in the signing of a 6year contract. He's a honest guy, he loves the city and the club

You really are nieve are'nt you if you think Reina is only here for the love of the club, he's here for the money and nothing else like all other footballers. Spanish Players know that if they can make it to a premier league Club they have it made because of the wages they pay, unless you play for Madrid or Barca that is. You talk about contracts but everyone knows they dont mean a thing if a player wants to go, Reina and Torres both have get out clauses in there contracts anyway. Fernando Torres was only ever using Liverpool as a stepping stone in his career like most big name players do, he knows he needs to be playing for a big club who competes for leagues and Champions leagues by the age of 27 where he will be entering his peak, the big clubs competing will also be able to pay the big wages as well which is what its all about.

You say that they've get out clauses. That's paper talk that you've chose to believe in again. Are you really that thick

And am not naive, I no any player these days can force a sale though like mascherano for example. However I can say that reina is a loyal player, he's not had the circus around him like gerrard had around him, when he got pissssssed off the club didn't start contract negotiations when he wanted to, yet they offered him contracts throughout the season when we won the champions league an he refused to discuss untill the end of the season. Why? Cus he wanted to keep his options open.

the papers got the Maschearno wanting to leave and refusing to play right, the Rooney situation right and Benitez on his way out right, so not everything they say is completely wrong. I personaly think Torres and Reina do have clauses because they are not stupid enough to risk being tied to a club who finishes outside the top four every season and does'nt play in the Champions league, hope your not ugly as awell as stupid that really would be unfortunate for you.

They've got more wrong than right. Also, the papers couldn't exactly get it wrong about mascherano as sky where the 1st to announce it before the game. still not admitted you where wrong for believing the [oops] that the times printed tho av you grandad about results comparing rafa and hodgeson in the opening games.

Best hurry up mate youve only got a few more years ahead of you. Maybe you should look at getting a brain transplant before getting a facelift to make yourself look younger and uglier