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by the way emp, any manager who puts lfc in the bottom 3 has disgraced the club. forever etched in our history.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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We've not long ago spunked £6m on getting Rafa out of his contract. Another £3m on doing the same to Hodgson AND Lee would be a wise investment.
By instinct I'm one of the old school; "give him time" believers, but not this time. We can't afford to hand him a transfer kitty and hope he comes up lucky.
Get a long-term appointment and a long-term plan for success and investment. Cut the dead wood and the "don't want to be heres". Suck-up the fact that we've played poor football for 2 years, that the players need a refresh and that we've been commercially mismanaged. Get the place back to having hope and expectation.
Sermon ends.... Thanks Roy but no thanks
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now why doesnt that article come as a suprise, is it true that he has got an old fàrt trying to teach reina how to be GK damage limitation cut your losses and run good by roy thanks for the merieles
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I'm with Flames. Get rid now while there isn't too much damage done. Hodgeson was always going to be a stop gap until the new owners came in , in my opinion, and I was willing to give him a go but nothing he has done in the league has made me think he can be here for the future.
Get a new man in, give him time until Jan to see who's good enough and who's not and then let him do what he has to do. Thats what I think anyway. 3 year contract?
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by the way emp, any manager who puts lfc in the bottom 3 has disgraced the club. forever etched in our history. Benitez was only a point better off with same games played in 2005...
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There is often much snobbery around when it comes to choosing newspapers, and I must admit to being guilty as charged in this respect. Many are the times when I have dismissed the scribings of the tabloid press as not being worth the paper they are printed on, preferring to get my daily diet of facts and news from the altogether more acceptable broadsheets.
Of course, of all the broadsheets none is more famous or prestigious as the Thunderer itself, The Times .
However, it seems that that the mighty Times can be as lax as the worst of the daily rags when it comes to the ubiquitous Fleet Street pastime of discrediting Rafa Benitez’s record as Liverpool manager. Under the headline ‘All is not lost for Liverpool’ this week’s Sunday Times is quoted thus:
“Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson might be under pressure despite the new owner’s (sic) vote of confidence, but the club’s dire start to the 2005-06 season should provide some comfort.”
Below this is printed a table showing ‘Points after 8 games’ and ‘Final League Position’for each season from the appointment of Benitez to the present:
2004-05 10 points 5th place
2005-06 7 points 3rd place
2006-07 10 points 3rd
2007-08 12 points 4th
2008-09 14 points 2nd
2009-10 12 points 7th
2010-11 6 points n/a
The obvious inference being that even during Rafa’s tenure there were a number of seasons in which Liverpool FC had not fared much better at the start of the campaign than Hodgson’s current side. All well and good, except for one thing. Every single points total printed for the Rafa years is incorrect and every one is short of the actual total.
The correct table is as follows:-
2004-05 13 points (Sunday Times 10pts)
2005-06 10 points (Sunday Times 7pts)
2006-07 11 points (Sunday Times 10pts)
2007-08 16 points (Sunday Times 12pts)
2008-09 20 points (Sunday Times 14 pts)
2009-10 15 points (Sunday Times 12pts)
2010-11 6 points n/a
Upon further checking, the points totals listed in the Sunday Times are the correct figures for the first SIX games of each corresponding season. It would appear that the table was drawn up two weeks ago but by the time they decided to print it they neglected to update it with games 7 and 8 for each campaign.
The two relatively poor starts under Rafa were in 2005-06 (10 points) and 2006-07 (11 points). In 2005-06 Liverpool drew four of their opening five games , including three goalless draws. It is safe to say that most of us were too busy singing “We won it five times” to start thinking of a crisis! The following season once again saw the reds stuttering during August and September losing the derby at Goodison 0-3, as well as going down to defeats at Old Trafford and Chelsea. Notwithstanding these setbacks the reds never dropped below 9th place in the table and finished October in 8th spot- a far cry from the relegation places.
It is more than a little disappointing that the newspaper which is widely regarded as the elite amongst its peers should be so wide of the mark. That it should be so careless is one thing, but when taken in the context of the overall media campaign to discredit Benitez’s legacy ( the Sky Sports regurgitation of Hicks’ ludicrous transfer spending figures without any attempt to present the true figures was a prime example) the suspicion lingers that it was not such an innocent error. If this was proved to be the case, the editor of the Sunday Times should hang his head in shame.
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The fact is for the last few managers we have seemed to have defensive minded managers. Defensive football is dull and boring. You saw a few years back when Rafa dropped his cautious approach and we played the likes of Utd Villa Madrid off the park.
If we had a decent attack minded manager I think even this team would be doing better than what it is now. Everytime were in a good position we pass it back, then back finally Reina gets a touch and we starte sideway passes. It does my nut in.
I watched us play Blackpool the other week and straight after I watched the Chelsea Arsenal game and it was amazing how fluid and attacking they are compaired to us.
Added to the fact we have a lot of mediocre players who fans back through thick and thin sometimes foolishly
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Link to that article I posted http://live4liverpool.com/2010/10/view-f...arts-under-rafasuppose reclaim that article is wrong and your right. However i've done me own research on it, and it is correct, the times got it wrong big time, and dickeds like you believe it. Here's a hint DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE PAPERS SAY DIM WITT
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Nasri played a one-two in the city penalty box and was clean through. So did Iniesta a fortnight ago.
I don't really see anyone doing this given that this is the very basics in football. Running onto the ball is very different from receiving it stationary. These guys are paid so much money but can't figure out what is blatantly obvious to us?
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I've been saying that for a while. We need players who arnt restricted from going ahead of the ball with their movement off it. There's to many who want to drop deep behind the ball to get touches of it. Prime example, last week kontchesky had the ball and instead of cole running past him down the wing making a forward run he ran behind him to collect it deep. It does my nut in, it's so simple
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