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Paul Gascoigne I would say was world class on his day the poor sod (if only players were looked after then like they are now).
Even George Best, being part of a brilliant manc side only won two league titles and a European Cup and he was up there with the very best. So it's really hard to define a player only on medals won...
Back to Gerrard, you can't tell me Souness was a better player, medals or no medals, cos I don't buy that. Gerrard is one of the best players to have ever worn the Red shirt and league or no league, I'd put him up there with the Liverpool Greats even now. Please mate dont embarass yourself further by saying Steven Gerrard is a better player than Graeme Souness, to make such a ridiculous statement you must be no older than 11 years of age, if thats the case I will make an allowance for the biggest joke on the forum. Ged a few points... firstly I'm old enough to remember the great days of the 70's so please don't patronize me pal cos I can get bleedin personal on here if that's how you want to play things! second I didn't write that Gerrard was better, I wrote Souness isn't better - there's a difference! They are different players and both were/are unbelievable and yes WORLD CLASS - and I still do not think you can say Souness is better just because he's won more gongs - your argument that to be world class you have to win medals is THE embarrassment! Thirdly, what really get on my t1ts is having to get into petty arguments with fellow Reds on this forum like you when we should be trying to pull together instead of resulting to insults and immature comments!
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i like flamini as a player - and forget all the crap the arse fans went on about him leaving for the money there was a lot more to it than that - he was their best player yet was expected to sign a new contract on half the money of their top players at the club - it was about feeling unappreciated as much as being about the money itself ..... i think he would be a good signing
have to be honest i do have sympathy for mash's missus - surely she should have been given a proper visa by now!! i do think this is summat that liverpool as a club should have looked into getting sorted .... not just this time but for all future signings - looking after little details like this can make all the difference in making players feel wanted and part of the club ..... their happiness improves and they then perform better
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i am not saying we should keep him or not - that is up to rafe to decide! but the point is the club as a whole should take a much better care of player's families and make them feel part of the club ....... getting them involved and feeling like they belong would go a long way towards keeping them happy
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Paul Gascoigne I would say was world class on his day the poor sod (if only players were looked after then like they are now).
Even George Best, being part of a brilliant manc side only won two league titles and a European Cup and he was up there with the very best. So it's really hard to define a player only on medals won...
Back to Gerrard, you can't tell me Souness was a better player, medals or no medals, cos I don't buy that. Gerrard is one of the best players to have ever worn the Red shirt and league or no league, I'd put him up there with the Liverpool Greats even now. Please mate dont embarass yourself further by saying Steven Gerrard is a better player than Graeme Souness, to make such a ridiculous statement you must be no older than 11 years of age, if thats the case I will make an allowance for the biggest joke on the forum. Ged a few points... firstly I'm old enough to remember the great days of the 70's so please don't patronize me pal cos I can get bleedin personal on here if that's how you want to play things! second I didn't write that Gerrard was better, I wrote Souness isn't better - there's a difference! They are different players and both were/are unbelievable and yes WORLD CLASS - and I still do not think you can say Souness is better just because he's won more gongs - your argument that to be world class you have to win medals is THE embarrassment! Thirdly, what really get on my t1ts is having to get into petty arguments with fellow Reds on this forum like you when we should be trying to pull together instead of resulting to insults and immature comments! I keep on mentioning winning major trophies because thats what sets very good players from the very best players look at it this way. What is the difference between the boxing champion of the world and the number 1 contender, What makes Tiger Woods what he is today, Aryton Senna different from all the other driver's, the simple answer is they all had that bit extra special ingredient you need which is they went one step further annd actualy won it. All the world best players never just won the trophies they all done special things when winning the trophies, Zidane winners in world Cup Finals and Champions League Finals, Maradonna World Cup in 1986, Cryuff Holland and Ajax, Matthaus Germany World Cup 1990 and nowadays with the likes of Decco, Henri and Messi. I am not saying Gerrard is not a fantastic player because it's there for all to see what I am saying is up until now he has played for a teams who have never provided him with a platform to be world class unlike past world class Liverpool players like Keegan, Dalglish, Souey, Rush and Hansen. Steven Gerrard is not the only fantastic Liverpool player to suffer having great ability but never having the platform to show it off, Fowler, Barnes and Peter Beardsley all were denied being labeled the best through either being denied the chance to play in Europe or not being involved in teams good enough like in Fowlers case.
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Agree to disagree....that's what I think.
Now, let them go, get some cash, and buy 4 more players.........done and done!
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Madrid sporting director Miguel Pardeza said: "It's at a standstill. From day one, Liverpool have asked for more than Madrid are ready to pay and it's very difficult to understand. But I've not lost hope that things can be resolved."
Cheeky bar-steward! what is so difficult to understand??? Xabi's a player we value highly, a key player in our quest for the title and more so therefore we don't want him to go. If you really want him it will cost you "x" amount. take it or leave it but don't spout sh1te like "it's difficult to understand" ya d1ck head!
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they pay £80m for gay ronnie, £60 plus for Kaká and think Alonso is not worth more than £20m - well Xabi me old mate that must tell you something about your "desired club" and how much they think of your talent. Move at your peril!
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Don't like the way Madrid do business.
As if they can complain about a fee we want for a player who is under contract and they want so bad.
They have even said there are not much players like him so pay the fee and keep quiet.
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you're right Emp - they are a fascist club - they even get government subsidies!!! They can win anything on merit so they have to go and buy their trophies - dirty stinking lot!
I tell you that if Barça win the title again this season I will be out celebrating with the rest of them!
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