KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum The solution is more obvious than you think.

"did i say the only acceptable results would have been 12 points in those 4 games?

but so far we have played 8 games where we have been outplayd in every one of them (including west brom at home!) but you think that is acceptable. and im deluded?

seriously, this is liverpool. not newcastle or blackburn..."




Well how many points would you have expected to get from them games?

Arsenal
Man City
Man U
Birmingham

This constitues 50% of our season so far. With the team the way that it is, I would have have to say a draw from each one would be a really good result and that totals 4 points.

But as it we got 2 points which amounts to 33% of our tally. where are your other points going to come from if it wasn't from these teams?

What I am saying is that Blackpool IS our only truly bad result unless you are deluded and expected to get a win from the above mentioned teams.

Again, you need to be realistic, not just dissappointed.

it's not only about the points, it's the performancs. so far we haven't been the better team in any of the games. is that liverpool fc standard?

we were lucky to get a point against birmingham but a team like liverpool should go to birmingham with the mind set on 3 points. a draw at st andrews isn't a bad result but again i will say it's about the performance and we were truly awful just like in the other games so far.

Its not that we didnt score a point against these teams..
Arsenal
Man City
Man U
Birmingham

The fact that we were squarely walloped by these teams and please 3 points against Birmingham should not be a biggie. If you cant take 3 from B'gham than better go play Leeds....oh wait, they might kick ass too...maybe QPR that would be better but wait we lost to Northampton...so maybe the handicapped sunday league then

".........and please 3 points against Birmingham should not be a biggie. If you cant take 3 from B'gham than better go play Leeds"


At the time, no one had beaten Birmingham at home for over a year. NO ONE !! That inlcludes the scum, Chelsea and Arsenal.

So clearly, presuming that a 7th placed team in the Premiership with a weakend squad should beat them is a little ambitious. Don't you think?


Oh, and another thing. We did get points from Birmingham and Arsenal.


I set this challenge to anyone.

Please tell me how many points you think that we should have at this stage? Now be realistic. My opinion is that it is only the 3 points lost against Blackpool is the result which is unjustified.

This is about points, not performance but like I said earlier, performance doesn't mean points. Look at Man City yesterday.

ARSENAL (1-1) – Draw, (1) played well however


MAN CITY (3-0) – loss (1) should get point here new man city team

WEST BROM (1-0) – Win, (3)


BIRMINGHAM (1-1) – Draw, (1) ok tough side


MAN U (3-2) – Manure played rubbish (1) not the force they were

SUNDERLAND (2-2) got to win away in premier against someone (3)

BLACKPOOL (1-2) – Loss, catatrophic result at home (3)


EVERTON (2-0) – Everton 4th from bottom (1)


I make it 14 points

THAT sentence my Swedish friend, sums and wraps the arguement up very nicely...and accurately....unfortunately.

TrueRed, I think you are smoking from the same pipe as Hodgson. Wake up already..

ARSENAL - Draw, (1) , best performance of the season


MAN CITY- Loss/Draw (0/1), gutless performance should be grateful that we were not skinned here

WEST BROM - Win, (3), again a spineless performance, lack of vision, 3 points have to be in the bag if we lay claim to a top 10 position

BIRMINGHAM Draw, (1) Lucky to escape with a point, considering the performance we put up

MAN U - Draw, (1) We seemed to be playing for a point from the get go, so no surprises that we came back with squat

SUNDERLAND - Win, (3) HAVE TO WIN THESE or go play North..nevermind better not do that

BLACKPOOL – Win, (3) At home against a promoted side,with almost the best XI. Again no thought or imagination applied, tactics were appaling


EVERTON - Win/Draw (3/1) Everton are the worse team in Merseyside, Period. or are they?

So with a minimum of 12 points we would be sitting in 6th position and that is if we just turned up and played football and not waltz around like pansies..

I bet you all that we'll hardly lose a game again with Hodgson, we'll finish in top 4 and we'll get that europa trophy

I'll give you 50,000,000/1

Totally agree, I mean come on, O'neil is another midcard manager that will struggle to get us out of the relegation zone.

Also, against arsenal, a draw was NOT and i stress it was NOT acceptable, we were winning til the 94minute and we were just unlucky. The other games you mentioned truered were also horrible, totally outplayed even in our only win so far. You mentioned city got outplayed against blackpool so what? That was the first time they get outplayed and atleast they been playing great football even against chelsea. Totally disagree with all your points mate, especially the martin o'neil as your saviour.