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The difference is Benitez hasn't been givin 200m by the club to spend over the past five years. He generally has a transfer kitty between 20 - 25m pounds every season everything else he has had to raise himself. To suggest he has been given 200 million by the club is lunacy in the extreme and shows you have 0 clue what your talking about.
Net spend is whats important at the end of the day. Showing off a car and balancing the books are two completely different things. You might tell your friends that the car cost 100 grand but when it comes to tax time and your crunching the numbers your going to take into account how much you sold your old car for...
The reason Benitez has gone through so many players is pretty simple. When he got here he wanted to replace the majority of the squad but with a small budget you can't just blow it all on one player every summer and hope it improves the squad. He had to split his 20m between 4, 5 or even 6 players and then bring in who ever he could with player sales. As he has replaced each position over the years he has needed less whole sale changes and more refinements. Hes gone from signing 5 or 6 players to signing just one. Glen Johnson and some youth products that may make the first team in years to come or they may be sold on later for a profit. He has built a strong spine of a team with some solid squad players mixed with youth & experience.
Really Ged you can't argue with the net spend vs gross because its not opinion your either right or wrong. And your wrong here... Am sorry you are totaly wrong, your failing to understand the most important factor in all this and that is we are supporters of the club unlike you who seem to be an Accountant. We as supporters are only interested in what goes on around a football pitch and what we see is a mad Spaniard's players who he has assembled over 5 years to the tune of over 200 million pounds failing to win the league for another season. It does'nt matter how much money he has got back all that matters is what we are seeing up to now and he has given other clubs 200 million pound or more for there players so they can turn us into league champions which he has failed to do. It does'nt matter if he gets more money back for players than what he spent on them what he is judged on is if the players were success's or failures as in winning us a league and as we speak the players he has brought to the club have not been good enough. So please dont talk about all this net spent rubbish it only looks good at the bottom of a balance sheet or at a shareholders meeting, fellers in the Kop are not interested in how much we recouped just on if the players he has spent the money on are good enough and 200 million pounds worth of talent up to now are definately not which is down soley to the person who brought them to the club.
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Of course it doesnt matter to you because if it did you wouldnt be talking such [oops]. Are you saying you expected Rafa to have us challenging for the title from the day he took over? It was always going to take time and it always will take time. He said he had a 5 year plan to take us from languishing in 4/5th spot to challenging for the title.
We challenged for the title last season and missed out by 4 points so he has turned us around. Its blinkered idiots like you who refuse to see what good he has brought the club and focus on media spun [oops].
I'm not totally wrong and I must of missed the memo that said supporters of the club are ment to talk [oops] about the manager and want him sacked. I thought the idea of being a "supporter" was to get behind the team and everyone involved in it.
I like it though, you have no valid argument so you have to come up with blanket statements like the fellers in the kop aren't happy etc. Do you know everyone in the kop? Have you asked them all the same question? Do they all believe this tripe?
From the marches organised to show support for Rafa its pretty obvious the majority of fans want him around and are willing to give him more time.
I really hope your a WUM and just wasting my time because I'd hate to think you actually believe half the stuff your saying...
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Of course it doesnt matter to you because if it did you wouldnt be talking such [oops]. Are you saying you expected Rafa to have us challenging for the title from the day he took over? It was always going to take time and it always will take time. He said he had a 5 year plan to take us from languishing in 4/5th spot to challenging for the title.
We challenged for the title last season and missed out by 4 points so he has turned us around. Its blinkered idiots like you who refuse to see what good he has brought the club and focus on media spun [oops].
I'm not totally wrong and I must of missed the memo that said supporters of the club are ment to talk [oops] about the manager and want him sacked. I thought the idea of being a "supporter" was to get behind the team and everyone involved in it.
I like it though, you have no valid argument so you have to come up with blanket statements like the fellers in the kop aren't happy etc. Do you know everyone in the kop? Have you asked them all the same question? Do they all believe this tripe?
From the marches organised to show support for Rafa its pretty obvious the majority of fans want him around and are willing to give him more time.
I really hope your a WUM and just wasting my time because I'd hate to think you actually believe half the stuff your saying... I dont like Benitez so am hardly going to say nice things about him am I just because he happens to of luckily kept his job because if Hicks and Gillette are going to sell the club it is better to do it with a manager in place rather than without and thats the only reason he has kept his job nothing else because he has failed every season in the league up until that point. Yes we did finish second and when you look at the points difference you would say it looks close and thats why I think it's false because although mathamaticaly it is close realisticaly we were out of the title race in January when the mad Spaniard did his embarrassing rant, thats when United took over and never looked back. I know people like you let there hearts rule there heads and thats why it's up to people like me to put you firmly in your place and talk sensible, if you done that yourself you would see Benitez is only on borrowed time until the end of next season because there is no way we will win the league this season and I will be be proved right that last season was a false dawn.
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Not going to bother anymore Ged, you clearly have no clue.
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completely lost the plot this time Ged 
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completely lost the plot this time Ged If a player like Gerrard is classed at World Class level when he has one only one major honour in his Career and plays for a club that has only won major trophy in 20 years then it's a sad state of affairs. Think it's a massive smack in the face to true world class players especialy past ones like Souness, Maradonna, Pele, Dalglish, Cryuff, Beckenbaur, Zidane, Henri, Mattaueus, Van Basten, Maldini and Platini if someone like Steven Gerrard can be put on the same equal footing as such greats when he has done virtualy nothing in terms of major honours in his career, very sad indeed.
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He has achieved a lot on a personal level. even if the team he plays in did not win as many trophies as desired.
Great players are compared by their abilities and performances, not their trophies and medals.
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LOL!
quite entertaining and totally insane. even scum fans admit gerrard is world class
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wht ged is tryin to say is...to be a world class player all need to do is win titles, it doesnt matter if your a stinking player, as long as you have medals you are world class...
we should re-write the definition of what a world class player is?
some guys are jus deluded....100 years from now, gerrad will be remembered as a player no matter if he wins medals, and i mean LFC fans and general football fans...
the only fans who will remember the so called world players who have plenty of medals, like wes brown, phil neville are man u fans, or no 1...
you dont have to be world class to win medals, its all about how u play your game, and the attributes you bring to it...
so if any1 says gerrad is not world class....jus smile, and go with it...because everyone knows, both LFC and general fans know the class of stevie
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I guarantee you that any fan in world football would rate him as world class and he would start in any team in the world.
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