KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Make or break for Roy this weekend?

Totally agree with merseymack I think roy evans was given a lot of time.. However No managers job is untouchable if man united were in 18th position or whatever lost to teams like sunderland people would start saying ferguson has to go he is senile etc. Give Hodgson till the end of the season but if its a complete shambles you have to boot the manager for example losing 8 out of ten matches then you are in a crisis(I don't think that will happen more like draw 8 out of 10). Teams evolve of course. I think a lot of people are suprised that we are in this state I am not it's terrible to say but we are lacking 2 - 3 quality players. So the bottom line is money long term. In the next few years we could win the league. Being patient doesnt mean tolerating rubbish football however. But lets face it we've played a lot of rubbish football over the last few years. So give the guy a chance if not give souness a ring..

the problem with fans is they are dismayed by the lack of football being played its obvoius that the players dont no what position there supposed to be playing in and the manager doesnt no either. also its fair to say liverpool fans didnt want roy in the 1st place so now he not providing results we want they are turning and quite rightly. i dont rate roy and never will not at a club of our level hes out of his depth and always will be, il be at the game tommorow paying my money and watching the dross that roy will get us doin so its not glory fans its reality redknapp turned spurs round streight away so all the give it time talk doesnt wash with me football is football its not rocket science.

More rubbish about fan loyalty blah blah not getting behind the coach blah blah. Hello? You're happy with what is happening on the pitch? I'm not. You're happy that we need to start believing we're only good enough for 10th in the league? I'm not. I, like everyone on here, have an opinion and I'm not afraid to voice it. My opinion is that Roy is out of his depth, but will keep us out of relegation. If that's all you want, then that's fine, but don't question my loyalty just because I have greater expectations for the greatest football club in world!

If West Ham beat Fulham, or Everton beat Birmingham today, we'll be 18th and in the relegation zone before we play tomorrow.

Granted, that might not happen, and it'd be 18th with a game in hand and after only six games, in an unusually close season so far, but still... it's not good is it? And if we do find ourselves in that situation, yeah, the Blackpool game could become crucial.

I also don't think it's about judging the manager, or not, after a certain number of games based just on the results. It's about what you see. Making steady progress despite not getting the points is one thing. Not showing any sign of improvement and continually being outplayed is another. We really need to see some improvement soon. I'm not talking about challenging for the title, I'm talking about just getting back to where we were last season (and that wasn't great of course, but it was still better than what we're seeing so far now!).

Totally loyal to the club of course, and I want to see Roy turn it around. Hopefully we'll see that starting tomorrow.

Couldn't agree more, AengilRed. I think that most people here want to see Liverpool play good football more than have title aspirations and so on. That's because most people understand that one leads to the other. So when we are presented with a team that is outplayed week in and week out, with no signs of improvement, we immediately become concerned that we've been led up the garden path. For a club that is still struggling to get rid of the last set of betrayers, this is a bitter pill.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. That has got to be the worst post I've ever seen on this site. Fu ck me you having a laugh. Any manager in the world would struggle with the squad we have! We've got a squad full of internationals. And there not performing, for one reason or another. Your making out that where a non league team that's bottom of the league and no manager can get us up the table and promoted. That's an impossible task. Where not an impossible, we've got the players we just haven't got the right man. Ie look at scalori when he was at Chelsea he was doing [oops] , then hiddink came in and turned it round

Dont you see thats what our clubs fans all about same as United's, they have chose to support the club for the wrong reasons, they pick teams because they are successful and when us or United have a bad time the glory hunters go hysterical and call for managers heads.

And yet some supporters have a clue - you can't lump glory seekers and those without blinkers into the same category. Everyone can see that whatever Roy is trying to do is failing. The honeymoon is over, and that special uplifting feeling his initial words gave us and the team is now gone. Now that he has to walk the walk we're seeing that maybe he's not up to the task. I mean, don't ask me - ask Torres (http://www.koptalk.co.uk/201010022811/Li...ned-report.html). If I had a choice between Torres and Hodgson I know who I would choose to keep.

No one at Liverpool wants to be Fulham, so trying to turn us into Fulham is going to fail. Roy's steadfastly sticking to tactics that are proven to make average teams not suck. Liverpool is better than that!

It's easy to say Jovanovic is rubbish when we've had only a few glimpses of him, but not so the manager? I think most of us agree that Jova is at least as good as Poulsen (which isn't saying much, is it?), but Roy won't drop the latter because that would be tantamount to admitting he made a serious mistake underestimating Liverpool.

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yea yr right mate what a load of crap players. none of the players from this team would get into any pl team. even shankly would find it hard trying to stop every team from playing us off the pitch. if only we had a a few half decent players.

That is only my opinion. When hiddink took charge of chelsea there were no problems around, he just had to guide them and set out a different strategy that worked. I think Hiddink wont even consider us because he knows he will struggle because the squad you so call full of internationals is just an average team, so you can have your laugh and say what you say because as i know from the past, your a man that doesnt respect opinion.