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What you need to remember is we lost £50 million of midfield players and replaced them for a combined £15 million,both Gerrard and Torres publicly said we need 4-5 quality signing and again we made a profit in the transfer window,how do you think that makes the players feel.Its easy to blame Roy,and its plain to see he plays with a world of fear and the shackles certainly have not come off,but please remember who put Roy in charge and what their real interests are.

I agree to a certain extent with the post but Legend is right when he says look who put him there. He is there because we couldn't afford anyone else. I like Hodgson but feel sorry for him coming to LFC in its current state. Maybe when new owners come in the atmosphere will change dramatically around the club and all will get better. But will Roy still be in charge then?

But Benitez kept us in the champions' league for 5 of those 6 seasons (which included winning it once), and while maybe our football was not exciting it was effective. Right now we couldn't win a raffle if we were the only entrant. That isn't Rafa's fault because the new manager has had some time to fix a few things, but instead we're going backwards.

Rafa benitez is in a different league to Hodgson tho, you can't compare the two, one is a world class manager proven at the highest level, the other has had his chance at the big time with the likes of inter and failed, what made people believe it would be different now?

Roy seems like a sound fella, but he isn't good enough to be manager of Liverpool, its getting more obvious every game. We drew against utrecht lastnite, 2 years ago we would have never of settled for a draw there. We settled for draws at the likes of madrid.. barca.. milan etc.

Question: have we gone backwards
Answer: Yes!!

It doesn't take a massive follower to see that tho, not so long ago we were running rings round the scum in there own backyard, we were closest we have been in a long time too winning the league. We won the CL in 2005 and then made it to another final, we were the team in Europe that knowone wanted to come up against because if Liverpool decided to have a good game you stood fucckin no chance, we were a force to be reckoned with ESPECIALLY in Europe.

Now its so different, and you can't blame the board room issues for it all. The whole idea of Lucas & Poulsen together is a joke!! we can all see that yet he insists on playing 2 DM.

Rafa had his faults.. we shouldn't have let him go so easy tho, especially with not so many top managers around these days. I would prefer to see Kenny takeover at Anfield, i think we would at very least play 100% more attractive football.

When we eventually are sold, Hodgson will go... for a club that aims high Hodgson isn't the man to head you there.

i wouldnt be too hard on roy. like i said before, it'll take a very special manager to dig us out of this hole, and its not an easy feat. i think roy is well intentioned but doesnt have the credentials. raffa on the other hand had money, that 20 million for aquilanni was a disgrace. what a tragic waste of scarce money.

I don't get this utrecht are so bad are they worse than debrecen i think not , the low level hodgson come into has made his job the toughest of any Liverpool manager and yes ultimately it might be to big for him , But the shambles left by the previous manager with a divided squad and poor quality to say the least apart from gerrard reina and torres leaves a lot to be desired , hodgson yes doesn't help himself , but benitez struggled in his first league campaign losing 15 league game finishing behind everton and so far behind chelsea it was embarrassing , and the debacle of the burnley game i can go on there is plenty but i need to go back to work .

That season where we brought in Aqua and Johnson we didn't go over what we recouped, are net spend for that summer was 0. How can you expect to push on when your only replacing two players that have left, we needed 3 extra players on top of the squad that we already had when we finished 2nd!

As for aqualani it's still up in the air on how much we spent on him, I remember hearing on city fm when we first got him saying we've made a down payment of 5 million and some of it gets paid at the end of the season and then there's payments on appearences which could make the fee rise to 20 mill bit hey ho! Me personally I don't think we should have loaned him out either, back end of last season he was looking sharper and I was looking forward for him to pushing on. Having him behind torres, cole left and gerrard in centre mid would of worked, and now you have merieles in centre mid playing aswell, that would of been a cracking midfield as there all creative.

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Is Roy hidding behind OWners?? laughs.. I thought LFC has no owner!! Is there any? Who is the owner? And how much investment did he bring this season? We sold players to buy new ones. I guess even northampton owners must have brought in atleast 1 penny to invest in new players but LFC didn't receive any!! That's a fact about the 2 clowns. How disgraceful!!

Well, Whatever your opinion about Roy, plz wait sometime and judge him after January or Feb. I remember Rafa had many haters, criticising him for his rotating system. Yeah many forgot, Rafa use to change 7-8 players after every game. But many had shut up after Rafa started delivering results! Poor results. I'm frustrated too, like most of you. But I'm afraid we have to wait and give the man some time to make the players understnd wat he wants from them.

The results are not so bad so far. We haven't lost to any weak team. We lost to man u and man city. Are they weak team away from home? Realistically, no. We drew to Arsenal, Sunderland and Birmingham. Is it so bad? Arsenal drew with sunderland too. Birmingham is a difficult place to go, all top4 teams drew last season including the champ chelsea. Look at west brom. We beat them 1-0. chelsea beat them 6-0 in 1st game. maybe west brom didn't adapt to EPL in 1st game. But look what they did afterwards, draw away to spurs and win away to arsenal. Is LFC so bad? Does LFC deserve to be where we are (6 points only)? We are decent anough even if we haven't hit the top gear yet. We look better than spurs and arsenal. We didn't lose to any weak team yet. We drew to northampton with our 2nd string. We didn't lost in 90mins. We lost in pens. Had it bn fa cup it wud be replay and it wud be a different story though. Bad luck. Yeah we aren't playing attracting footbal but who does?? Mourinho's team never plays sexy football but they win trophies. Patience guys. difficult moment but only time can heal the pain. YNWA

Some, what should be, glaringly obvious points to be made to you here. Last night, once again, Johnson was our only width and our best attacking player bar none. He was the only getting behind defenders. The way we are playing relies on him being way up the pitch so he can't get back everytime. You wouldn't notice it as much if we had Masch cause he would be covering. But Poulsen has no clue where to be and is terrible and can't cover correctly.

Benitez proved he could cut it time and time again with liverpool and played some beautiful football in the process. Most of his big signings were top drawer (I think aquilani showed he had immense promise as well), so if he had the owners to back him he would have done even better imo. But I would nt trust Hodgson to buy me a drink let alone 4 or 5 players.

Most importantly he HAS the players right NOW to be playing good football. He is setting them up in positions and tactics that make them play the worst football in the league.