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So the succession of yellow cards and goals as just luck then? We had no idea what we were doing, we changed our formation and still didn't know what we were doing, so our opposition fell over themselves to give us a chance, and then when we changed our formation a second time our luck mysteriously changed and they wrapped the game up? Who's having a laugh?

We haven't played like a team - I said that. But when we have played like a team (briefly) we played like a good team. We need to play like that team a bit more. We have 12 months worth of "not-playing-like-a-team" habit to break; think that comes easy?

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I like Roy, But he looks a little out of his dept, We were crap until Raul went back into the middle of the park. What i can't understand it was the same the other night in Europe. Now if Raul had to be subbed because of fitness then why did he stay on the pitch so long on Thursday??????. makes no sense at all. As for all this hard start to the season.... What a load of tosh, We are Liverpool, years ago we would have been thinking along the lines of taking points off other big teams (the scum, gonners, city). But lets face it all we thought this year is our league starts after the scum game

It was this non belief is the backbone of the team now. I will back Roy when Roy finally wakes up and starts to believe in the team, the club and the culture. I don't care about losing this year. But we can't keep waiting for other teams to take the lead and then we decide to start playing.

Utd where there for the taking yesterday, instead of nailing them to the cross, when we got to two all we stopped again. we did not believe we could win.

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I didn't think we played that badly yesterday to be honest we played like the away team and if berba didnot score that 84 min goal yesterday we would have been saying how wonderful roy hodgson is so it think we should stop being fickle. That team should start every game replace skrtel with agger and replace maxi with kuyt when kuyt returns. I think babel should come on whenever we need a goal as he has a lot of pace to run at tiring full backs. Furthermore Howard Webb was a disgrace in that match john oshea should have been sent off.If we play that team everyweek am sure we will win a lot more games, Torres also has to improve cause he doesn't seem to be the same player but that will have to take time

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Originally Posted By: Highwayman
It was this non belief is the backbone of the team now. I will back Roy when Roy finally wakes up and starts to believe in the team, the club and the culture. I don't care about losing this year. But we can't keep waiting for other teams to take the lead and then we decide to start playing.


I don't think we decide when to start or stop playing. To use a music analogy we have no rhythm. As soon as everyone is on the same page we make great music, but unfortunately Roy needs to go through this 'tuning' with the team. We all know that at least half our vital machinery is missing; putting it all back together may result in a totally different machine, but we can't just throw away what we have until we know for sure it doesn't work. Wait, this isn't a music analogy any more!

Anyway, the point is that we didn't have time in pre-season to play with ideas or formations or tactics, so we are forced to do it now. We're going to get it wrong, and so far our starting XI has been where we've got it most wrong (hence our succession of bad first halves). Roy is a bit slow to change things, but I think he's not even looking at the results right now; he's trying to work out what we're doing on the pitch and how that differs to what we should be doing. The only really bad mistake I've seen was taking Raul off on Sunday, and I doubt he will repeat that.

If you asked him whether things are going according to plan in terms of selection and performance (and if he were to answer honestly) he'd probably say 'it's all [oops]ed up, but we're making progress.' Given our difficult start to the season, maybe that's good enough; as long as the progress continues, anyway.

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Originally Posted By: mybloodisred
absolute [oops] sorry lads, united at our mercy??? your having an absolute laugh. I really wish our fans would stop lying to themselves and each other. We were a joke on sunday and those 2 goals utterly flattered us. We had 0 creativity. We should not go to city and expect to get beat, cause other teams not aimimg for the top 4 dont do that, while they are still finding their feet they are ripe for the plucking as well. For me it isn't about the results so far though, it is about the football we have played, and if you sit there and honestly try and tell people in the premier league we have played any sort of good team football you're a liar. We look like we have 11 men from different sports come together to make a footie team.
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Originally Posted By: ronmanager
I can't believe you lot above have such low expectations? You lot and Roy Hodgson for that matter.

Look at our squad - full of internationals for the likes of Spain, Holland, England, Argentina and yet we aren't just losing or drawing, we are scraping those draws against the run of play. Why are we playing such defensive [oops] football and leaving the attacking talent on the bench. These tactics aren't working and our manager is aiming for draws. Disgraceful.

The players are sitting there - play them.


So what would have been your team then yday. Agger maybe in for skrtel? babel in for maxi? Apart from that what would you have picked, would you have played Lucas instead of poulsen, or even ngog and had him upfront with nando? What do people expect, do you think we should go to old trafford and go all out attack? Some people on here just take into account what the commentator thinks, read my post in the other thread about the game. 1st half they scored and had one other chance with nani, 2nd half we had two great chances to score but had nando brought down on both occasions, which we scored from. So what would you have done, how would you have gone into that game knowing your not playing at home your playing at old Trafford?

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in my honest opinion i AM sick of reading certain people moaning and groaning. You WANT to be a liverpool fan THEN SHUT UP AND STOP COMPLAINING. IT AINT EASY AT THE MOMENT TO BE A LFC FAN IF YOU HAVNT NOTICED. IF YOU WANT AN EASY LIFE THEN FECK OFF AND GO CHEER SOME OTHER TEAM. IF you call yourself a lfc supporter, stop acting like an idiot pro critic and actually BE A BLOODY SUPPORTER AND BLOODY SUPPORT THE TEAM!! if you really think you got a better idea then why didnt you apply for the manager's job u dumbfeck

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Originally Posted By: burntpig
in my honest opinion i AM sick of reading certain people moaning and groaning. You WANT to be a liverpool fan THEN SHUT UP AND STOP COMPLAINING. IT AINT EASY AT THE MOMENT TO BE A LFC FAN IF YOU HAVNT NOTICED. IF YOU WANT AN EASY LIFE THEN FECK OFF AND GO CHEER SOME OTHER TEAM. IF you call yourself a lfc supporter, stop acting like an idiot pro critic and actually BE A BLOODY SUPPORTER AND BLOODY SUPPORT THE TEAM!! if you really think you got a better idea then why didnt you apply for the manager's job u dumbfeck


Right everyone. Stop the discussion. It's been decided that we all have to talk about nice things like the pretty red colour of the shirts and Fernando's new haircut. Sorry I thought this was a forum for talking about what we think but apparently not according to the half shouted post above.

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Originally Posted By: thundyr
So the succession of yellow cards and goals as just luck then? We had no idea what we were doing, we changed our formation and still didn't know what we were doing, so our opposition fell over themselves to give us a chance, and then when we changed our formation a second time our luck mysteriously changed and they wrapped the game up? Who's having a laugh


Still you buddy, we were gifted them goals. One good pass would not normally get you two goals in a game, especially against such a good team. They were an absolute gift that we didn't deserve based on those 90 minutes, your blind if you think otherwise sorry. The rest of the world is talking about how Utd stuffed us and we were lucky to get them goals, you think you know better than people whos job it is to analyse football games and the majority of people out there? No neither do I.

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in my honest opinion i AM sick of reading certain people moaning and groaning. You WANT to be a liverpool fan THEN SHUT UP AND STOP COMPLAINING. IT AINT EASY AT THE MOMENT TO BE A LFC FAN IF YOU HAVNT NOTICED. IF YOU WANT AN EASY LIFE THEN FECK OFF AND GO CHEER SOME OTHER TEAM. IF you call yourself a lfc supporter, stop acting like an idiot pro critic and actually BE A BLOODY SUPPORTER AND BLOODY SUPPORT THE TEAM!! if you really think you got a better idea then why didnt you apply for the manager's job u dumbfeck


What a load of [oops]! I call myself an lfc supporter cause im at every other home game and through thick and thin I've stayed with them. If I pay ticket prices to go and see my team that I have supported my whole life and they play [oops] football then I can moan and groan all I want thanks buddy.

Getting off the whingeing for a bit, the players are there to play some football, and in possession the passing wasn't too bad, but as soon as United pressed we lost it or it went back. There is 0 creativity, but there are the players their to offer it. Why we are playing such awful football I cannot fathom.

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Are creativity is shockin at the moment...

Im bored of the "blame roy tribe" just sheep, that follow when an other goes bahaa the others all shout the same bahaaa.

Look at what the man has come into, the hassle, no confidence, tough run of games for start of the season.

Its shiite at the moment i know, but Roy is not to blame.


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