KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Give 5 reasons why LFC has reached this situation.

Funny how Carragher comes up with the Souness argument the other week and now everyone's going "yeah, Souness was to blame". He was a crap manager granted but I've never attributed him with our so called downfall. We haven't really been in downfall for the last few years apart from last season. OK we haven't won the PL but we've been close a couple of times and the arrival of billionaires in the PL has stopped us to a degree too as it is no longer a level playing field.

However, five reasons (there's probably many more than five but here's what springs instantly to mind) why we are currently playing crap?

1. Our current and previous manager putting all our eggs in one basket - ie. playing one (Torres if we're lucky and he's not injured) up front. So unless he gets at least one goal a game we have little chance of stringing a run of wins together, and a run of wins is the minimum required to compete in the PL.

2. Letting the last 5 or 6 transfer windows go past whilst buying dozens of players in every other position apart from the goalscorer we desperately need. And selling the goalscoring and creating talent we had from under us.

3. Having a manager who will pick the same sub-average players every week regardless of how ineffective they are when there are young, hungry, creative and talented players champing at the bit to get their chance. These players could quite literally do no worse than the plodders on the pitch but on the bench they remain, week in and week out.

4. (again) Having a manager who will watch us get outplayed by giants such as Birmingham yesterday and yet won't change the team until 14 minutes from the end. If nothing else, it was torture for us fans having to watch us struggle for so long before he hauled Lucas off.

And finally

5. Having the heart of the club, the owners, chairman, backroom etc. totally overhauled/replaced within a relatively short space of time, leaving the club in the hands of stangers who don't understand what Liverpool FC is all about. There is almost nobody left there to uphold or even remember the values that Liverpool FC stand for. It is just us, the fans that have to make sure that these values are not forgotten.

YNWA (in the case of the Yanks, the last 'A' stands for 'Again')

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Souness has always been on my blame list.

We haven't been in a downward spiral!! how do you work that out?

Ok Liverpool FC are no longer the greatest club in the world which at one time they were, this is why we have such high expectations because of the 60's,70's,80's. We have won plenty of trophys since then tho, we have been succsesful in europe on plenty of occasions, even when we haven't reached the final we were looked upon as a favourite to do so.

We have been close to winning the prem, we have been more of a nearly there club over the past years, top 4 most seasons, european football most seasons... Yes we do have issues that need to be sorted, but its never going to be the same as it was in the "glory days" the game has changed, to much money involved.

Guys, I'm really worried about two issues..
Firstly, we need to develop our set-pieces skills.. I wonder how many goals did we score from set-pieces in the past one year?? Very few!! What is the prob?? Where are the excellent crosses of gerrard?? How many good headers do we have?? Kuyt,Torres, N'gog, Jova, Skrtel, Carra and Agger.. We need atleast one player who will step in and say "Steevie lemme talk this set-piece, i believe i can do something here!!".. I have in mind aurelio, but unfortunately fitness problem!! So we need to train someone for this, maybe joe cole.. Don't let opponents take us for granted!! Everytime we have a free-kick in a dangerous position , any kid will tell u gerrard will take it.. If we had gerrard plus another 2 players like aurelio and cole lining up for the free-kick then the goalkeeper himself will be left guessing who's gonna take this one?!? We need to something guys.. Games like away to birmingham can be won this way.. Same for corners..

Secondly, we have to work very hard on crossing from the flanks.. We need to throw more bodies into the penalty area everytime we have the ball on the opposition's flanks.. Then we need a precise cross.. We have kuyt, jova, johnson, maxi, konchesky, cole.. not many of them can cross in accurately on the head!! Kuyt, i noticed his crosses in the air are poor whereas everytime he keeps the ball on the ground it's a precise pass.. Cole is a good option.. Johnson is not that accurate.. Johnson had a good linking with crouch at portsmouth because even if he over-do a cross, crouch is tall enuf to reach the ball.. I just hope Roy knows these two probs and he is working hard in the training, otherwise it will be another 6 years lost with another manager just bringing in players without giving them enuf weapons to attack opponents.. We are a long way from being a top world class team, we are a top4 EPL team though.. First we must play like a team which deserves to win something then silverwares will rain automatically.. Fingers-cross.. Hope for the best for LFC..

I've just spent the past few minutes reading everyone's point of few and its clear from reading that we don't need to go all the way back to King Kenny quitting to assess why the club is in the state it is currently in. I agree that the King resigning had an awful effect on the club. The souness era was not very succesful but he wanted to make his own mark on the club, granted it didn't work but then Roy Evans came in did the business and wasn't backed, he got shafted and pushed to the side when it became fashionable for foreign managers to take charge. Houllier did a marvelous job and got us to second in the league and i can only really say that it was at that point that the club had been rebuilt. We had promising youngsters such as Owen, Carragher and Danny Murphy. We had Folwer, Heskey and a real english core. We had Stephen Wright coming through and young warnock, little david Thompson. It was from here that we should of pushed on. However it wasn't to be Ged got Ill made some horrible signings and then left. New Manager and we rebuild again....fast forward five years of rebuilding...we get to 2nd..same story poor signings and core of the team is dismantled. We can also look at how the club was being run, sponsorship etc but at the end of the day we have had two good opportunities over the past 20 years to crack on and regain our status as the best and for whatever reasons we haven't. We can blame whoever we like but what good will that do. Lets get behind our team...ride out the storm. The glory days will come again but if we really want to get back to the Liverpool of old we need fans to stick together not trash talk each other on a forum!!! I hope we crack on tonight with a top class performance against Steau and carry it through to SUnday!! YNWA