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Here's my list
1. Goes without saying. Gillette and Hicks
2. Greed on the part of Moores and Parry
3. Graeme Souness
4. Abramovich taking football into the business world.
5. Power hungry managers, not mentioning any names here but I can think of at 2...
Last edited by frenchpookie; 10/09/10 06:30 PM.
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Under 16 Player
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1. Peter Robinson and John Smith choosing OOT and Foreign fans ahead of locals.
2. Not making the right appointments in managers and too many players not fit to wear the shirt.
3. The re-amergence of Machester United Football Club.
4. Having all our success at the wrong time as in not when Sky Television came in with all there money which coindcided with United having there most succesful time.
5. David Moores not selling to D.I.C. but instead decided to take the extra 10 million pound the two Americans offerd instead.
And one for good measure,
6. The loss in the Clubs identity with the change in fans from predominantly local to Out Of Town, Foreign and Day Tripper which dropped the expectation level of the club right down to a point where medoicroty is far to easily accepted.
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Under 23 Player
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1. Peter Robinson and John Smith choosing OOT and Foreign fans ahead of locals.
2. Not making the right appointments in managers and too many players not fit to wear the shirt.
3. The re-amergence of Machester United Football Club.
4. Having all our success at the wrong time as in not when Sky Television came in with all there money which coindcided with United having there most succesful time.
5. David Moores not selling to D.I.C. but instead decided to take the extra 10 million pound the two Americans offerd instead.
And one for good measure,
6. The loss in the Clubs identity with the change in fans from predominantly local to Out Of Town, Foreign and Day Tripper which dropped the expectation level of the club right down to a point where medoicroty is far to easily accepted. Blame the OOT????!!!!!
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Under 16 Player
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Under 16 Player
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And one for good measure,
6. The loss in the Clubs identity with the change in fans from predominantly local to Out Of Town, Foreign and Day Tripper which dropped the expectation level of the club right down to a point where medoicroty is far to easily accepted. Hilarious. Why not blame it on all the foreign players like Torres, Reina, Agger, etc. Have they made the club lose it's identity as well? Have they also brought the club to a point where so-so performances are far to easily accepted?
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Liverpool Legend
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1. Peter Robinson and John Smith choosing OOT and Foreign fans ahead of locals.
2. Not making the right appointments in managers and too many players not fit to wear the shirt.
3. The re-amergence of Machester United Football Club.
4. Having all our success at the wrong time as in not when Sky Television came in with all there money which coindcided with United having there most succesful time.
5. David Moores not selling to D.I.C. but instead decided to take the extra 10 million pound the two Americans offerd instead.
And one for good measure,
6. The loss in the Clubs identity with the change in fans from predominantly local to Out Of Town, Foreign and Day Tripper which dropped the expectation level of the club right down to a point where medoicroty is far to easily accepted. Explain how you've ascertained the Foreign and Day Trippers expectation level?
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Under 18 Player
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i guess its all because of owners, maybe rafa should get some credit as well
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Under 23 Player
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Under 23 Player
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And one for good measure,
6. The loss in the Clubs identity with the change in fans from predominantly local to Out Of Town, Foreign and Day Tripper which dropped the expectation level of the club right down to a point where medoicroty is far to easily accepted. Hilarious. Why not blame it on all the foreign players like Torres, Reina, Agger, etc. Have they made the club lose it's identity as well? Have they also brought the club to a point where so-so performances are far to easily accepted? Might as well blame the kit man for not using Persil when washing the shirts after the game. And oh, blame the gardener for not using a better rake hence allowing the leaves to cause distress to the players.
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Under 16 Player
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why are we still creating threads to give Red4Life amunnition? he has obviously got an under lying condition with the OOT's and we keep feeding him lines .. maybe its some kind of psychological issue ??? lol he is funny tho ..... for a cabbage !!  G
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Under 18 Player
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Its because of modern day football, to much money, players don't play for the shirt anymore they play for the wage packet.
"For a player to be good enough to play for Liverpool id expect him to run through a brick wall and come out the other side fighting" this just isn't the way anymore.
The global marketing does have an effect because it brings a different type of fan/supporter, To agree with red yes there are to many tourists at Anfield these days BUT OOT isn't a tourist, a tourist is the one with the camera more interested in taking bloody pictures all the time than watching the game and supporting. Some fans spend an absolute fortune on following Liverpool and alot of them arent scouse, so to knock them for not being is wrong. Theres a fella from rochdale i see at the game and he hasnt missed a single game in 20 years, my point exactly!!
The background of the people that attend the games is different now aswell, back in the 60 & 70's Liverpool never had much to shout about apart from the best football club in the world, so they we let it be known they were and we sung about it because it was all about what the city stood for, put us on the map.
I for one still care about that and will sing about it from the moment i step into anfield till the moment i leave, but alot of people dont feel the same.
I took my girlfriends french relative to the wolves game at Anfield last season, ok it was wolves but it was still anfield.. i think he was quite dissapointed and it wasn't what he expected from the "best fans in the world", granted i would have picked a better game if he had come a different time.
<3 LUIS SUAREZ <3
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Under 16 Player
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1. Hillsborough, for the obvious loss of life, But on that day a bit of king Kenny died and a few years later he left us. Another factor is that terracing was banned and the kop cease to be.
2. Hysel, Again tragic loss of life, But in the coming years 86 to 90 that team would have won another European cup (at least one more). By far one of the greatest teams to grace Anfield. At the time the great Milan team was coming of age as well...... AAAHHH what did we miss
3. The board not having enough fate in Roy Evens. Lets be clear, there has been no good football played at Anfield since Roy left. I think if we kept Roy and trusted him with the money that GH was given we would not be having this forum.
4.The board again, After all that time looking for new investment and vetting all the candidates. They then trust the WORD of one of them about the other.. Mind blowing
5. The OOTers for going to games and pumping money into the club (keeping it going). With out you we would be Everton, That's right all local support. I agree that Locals don't get enough seats in the ground. That's why we must build a new one. In point one i mentioned the kop, The heart and pulse of Anfield. "when it was all standing". In Germany some grounds are bringing back Terraces, For home support only
We are yet to start building a new ground, I think its worth looking into. Plus a certain amount of seating put aside for locals and school kids.
But lets not kid ourselves, Foreign fans and all they invest to get to Anfield is needed just as much as local support
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