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I am afraid you need to stop burying your head in the sand if you think everyone is all lovey dovey amongst Liverpool fans. There is a big diverse spread amongst Liverpool fans similar to what at United, because everyone comes from all over the place we all lead different lives and have hardly anything in common with eachother only that we happen to support the same club and this is why there are differences between us. There are still a few people who who are local who still attend games and the club is there life and has been through generations, they are now sitting next to people in the match who are there purely and simply for a jolly, a day out, a place to take pictures or a place to say they have visited well I am sorry to some fans it's alot more important than that, a result can effect that persons following week until the next game, this is why I say we are different, I have always had my season ticket and I am now going to the match with people I have absolutely nothing in common with or can relate to some dont even speak the same language as me so when people say we are all the same it's an absolute joke, I have probably more in common with a person who lives in Manchester than some of these who have days out at Anfield now. I just find it so hard to beleive on here that people dont think identity is important to a football club and when I speak up about a local identity and how the club has lost ours people get hyserical, success is a good thing for cash and fame wise but it has cost us our identity what people need to decide is if it's worth the price, i dont think it is.

Your beef is with the club,not other fans,so kindly f*ck off to the forum on the official site and bring up your bigoted opinions there.Alternatively,stormfront might be the place you.

I can sort of see what he's saying about identity and not relating to someone from say norway or London etc. And I do agree when he talks about people on jolly days out taking pictures etc, that really does get on my tits like. But i don't agree to the extreme that red4life feels.

When reds flock to anfield from all areas of the world some come for the experience some come for the passion and getting behind the team when it counts. I'm one of them when we get beat, it depresses me and I can't stop thinking about the game.

I just think it's a fine line between seperating the die hards and the wannabes.

let me tell ya somethin red4life. you talk about local support. pop into general chat and you'll see a thread dedicated to the dubs that i opened. thats Dublin by the way. gaelic football. its a sport over in ireland. beside england. (i tell you that because you havent been off your street your whole life.) if someone from liverpool turned up on hill 16, i would be delighted and proud that someone from across the water would take the time to travel and spend their money to watch my club and i would wwelcome them with open arms, no matter how many photo's he took. the thought of seeing them as a lesser supporter than me would make me the smallest man in the world.
youre delusion of grandure say more about your own insecurities and nothin about the club OR other fans.

Yeah but it's not what your saying is it, my problem is that there are far to many people attending matches that should'nt be there, people who are only there for a day out, a free lunch in the hospitality, because they have been invited and have nothing better do do, because they have always just wanted to see what going to a football match is all about, to have there picture taken in the Spion Kop, to bragg to there mates that they have been to watch Liverpool and they have'nt well am sorry I dont have anything whatsoever in common with these types of people and if you dont like that or you feel I am saying something wrong there then thats up to you, like it or not thats what success has done to our club and i dont care if it brings in loads of money, going the match is alot more important to me than that and i will never apologise for that.

What the Hell? Since when was Chris Bascombe a "senior player"? He's a writer who used to work with the Liverpool Echo, a journalist who just happened to write about LFC. Hardly makes him someone worth paying attention to really! And if you're on about me bringing up Gerrard, Carra or Torres, well they were just examples, they havent actually had anything to do with that rag. ;/

I tell ya one thing , I wanna smack the living daylights out of the yanks so badly but redlife4 you are not far behind. You seriously need to pull ya head out of your ass and get that chip off your shoulder , lifes too short bud

red4life is a waste of air ....... so what if he doesn't have much in common with some people, he also has nothing in common with a decent human being

well i could just bury my head in the sand like you do and say nothing or I could express my views on a forum like this which at times makes me feel better because I am putting my side of things over. I have controversial views fine, but I do back them up, Liverpool fans in general make me sick, I dont have much in common with them anymore because the Clubs support has changed and in my eyes not for the better, I question fans from out of town and Foreign fans because i really do feel, most to nearly all, have attatched themselves to the club because of success rather than love of the Club, do you really think if we were a Huddersfield or Plymouth Argyle fans would still support us like they do, i think not, and no matter what anyone says that is a fair point, some people I know agree with me but when they see the stick and abuse I get on here they would rather keep there mouths shut which is understandable.

I am planning to travel to England JUST to watch a Liverpool match at Anfield... I've been traveling for a while around the world and living in different places. But now i finally have a home and i'm attending a university in the US. The one thing i always enjoyed because i have been alone while traveling was watching Liverpool games, but the fear of traveling there with my brother and attending a game cause i'm an outsider still bothers me because of some of the comments i have read from the supporters about outsiders. I'm sure i speak for most fans that are not from Liverpool, that we just wanted to be accepted as a Liverpool fan and not singled out.