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ive read this morning that the whole fernando llorente rumour is [oops].

and why would a basque team that only ever sign basque players want an argentine is beyond me

HI Fatbolyslim 2010,

That is really strange, Athletic Bilbao won´t sign any footballer outside of the Basque Country.

And I don´t know if Liverpool fc has any Basque player in the first team or in the reserve team.

Athletic bilbao is playing only with Players that were born in the Basque Country or that their formation was in Basque Teams.

For example San Jose, or Xabi Alonso... but ... I don´t know.

Athletic Bilbao´s president the last week in a media interview told that the club has denied an offer for the Defender Amorebieta. Even he said that they won´t buy any of the key players: JAVI MARTINEZ, FERNANDO LLORENTE OR FERNANDO AMOREBIETA.

I repeat.. Dunk knows the club better than me.. but none in Bilbao is talking about it.

Bye.

lol. Short version: Spanish surnames are actually two "names", and if you put a hyphen between them are similar to our double-barreled surnames (father and mother's surnames combined). So "Torres-Sanz" is nothing like "Llorente-Torres", even though I allude to it in my post.

Long version: It's more complicated than that because everyone has a double surname, but the important thing is that the father's line is carried through. If we take "Fernando José Torres Sanz" (our no. 9), we can see that his father's line is Torres while his mother's line is Sanz (actually his mom's father's "first" surname). So although "Fernando Llorente Torres" is also technically part of the wider Torres family, that's on his mother's side. Since one can't put a million letters on the back of a football jersey they just go by the first part (imagine if everyone in your country had something like "Wright-Phillips", on the back of his shirt).

EDIT: both names form the surname, so they're never omitted in Spanish; think of Arantxa Sanchez Vicario of the tennis world.

Dang, edit time expired. What I also neglected to mention is that when a woman marries she may (or may not) change the part of her surname that comes from her mother's side to her husband's paternal name, and she could add a 'de' in the middle.

Here's a better explanation: http://perez.cs.vt.edu/twolastnames

Liverpool have an offer on the table for Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez.

The Germany international was contacted by Liverpool last week about the prospect of moving to Merseyside.

Gomez, 25, will decide on a move to Merseyside this morning, says the Daily Mail.

Liverpool want to sign the striker outright and have offered around £10.5 million for the player.

That cant be right, Bayern paid something like €30m for the guy, why would they sell him for just 10.5m a year later? This time the Daily Fail has really failed. Still would not complain if he did pitch up but it would have to be as a loan with the option to buy next season.

Mario Gomez or Fernando Llorentes. Will be happy to sign one of them. No particular preference really.

As long we can sign another quality striker then I will be happy. That's all I ask for.

if its one german player I want in our team its Podolski, it was Ozil but now that chance is gone

I'll reserve opinion on him until he's played for us.

Ngog costs a fraction of what Cole would if you include his transfer fee and wages. Ngog offers just the same as Cole.