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World Class

It’s a phrase banded around a lot. There is a debate on another thread whether Mascherano is world class. Entering in this discussion and claiming he was later I suddenly thought to myself what is world class I don’t even know myself come to think of it.

Thinking about further over my Nescafe it my definition would be to play at the top level and that must mean international level and in the major competitions which means world cup, European, African or South American championships. And to perform as a star player consistently in those competitions e.g. to be appreciably better than your peers. In that case I was probably wrong to say Mascherano is a world class player good yes but appreciably better than his peers? Probably not. If my definition is near the mark there are very few world class players at any given time less than 10 maybe? And also as football becomes more and more technical on fitness and stopping flair are there less and less than what there was in the 1970’s say when there was more of a margin?

But that’s only my Saturday morning coffee definition am I right?



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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
World Class

It’s a phrase banded around a lot. There is a debate on another thread whether Mascherano is world class. Entering in this discussion and claiming he was later I suddenly thought to myself what is world class I don’t even know myself come to think of it.

Thinking about further over my Nescafe it my definition would be to play at the top level and that must mean international level and in the major competitions which means world cup, European, African or South American championships. And to perform as a star player consistently in those competitions e.g. to be appreciably better than your peers. In that case I was probably wrong to say Mascherano is a world class player good yes but appreciably better than his peers? Probably not. If my definition is near the mark there are very few world class players at any given time less than 10 maybe? And also as football becomes more and more technical on fitness and stopping flair are there less and less than what there was in the 1970’s say when there was more of a margin?

But that’s only my Saturday morning coffee definition am I right?


is this english?


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
my definition would be to play at the top level and that must mean international level and in the major competitions which means world cup, European, African or South American championships. And to perform as a star player consistently in those competitions e.g. to be appreciably better than your peers. In that case I was probably wrong to say Mascherano is a world class player good yes but appreciably better than his peers? Probably not.


There is nothing wrong with touching this subject again, however the true answer is down to personal belief. I get what your saying, but when Messi plays for Argentina he does not fit into the category but I would not dispute that he is world class.

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is this english?


It is just lacking in punctuation in the right places. Then it makes perfect sense as English. Same way yours would, if you had a capital letter at the start of your sentence :p


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I have re read the original text again and I see no problem at all with understanding the point made. However I concede the punctuation and in particular the sentence structure is very poor. I have made the common mistake of typing what you think resulting in too many fragments and independent clauses in the sentences. I offer no excuses for this it’s sloppy and I apologise unreservedly. But to the subject in hand yes it’s seems it’s almost impossible to define what world class is, the example of Messi is a good one. Also I would convey the case of George Best who is recognised by many as one of the best players ever. But at the highest level he did nothing of note other the 1968 European cup final when Benfica were outclassed anyway. However there is a current thread on Mascherano where people are debating at length about whether he is world class. Yet none of us can articulate that what world class is so how can we measure it? World class it seems is just an expression and which we all see from different perspectives. So there.....


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Easy question.

A player that can walk into any team in the world

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Easy question.

A player that can walk into any team in the world


So that means there are only 11 world class players in the world? 1 goalkeeper, 4 defenders, 4 mifielders & 2 strikers?


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