KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Why isnt there a succesful black manager in the Pl

As its been discussed already here yes it is singling out blacks, there isnt a successful manager of 'other' cultures at all , i could say a lot more but i wont. Btw i aint black

i agree with taveman, if your good enough your good enough. It doesn't matter what the colour of your skin is. The cream will always rise to the top no matter what the ethnicity.

I don't think that there is the same tradition there like there is with white managers. Same for women. Female managers are there in lower leagues, just none have yet been given the chance to manage in the prem league. Frank Rijkjaard and Ruud Gullit come to mind as being great former players trying to prove themselves as a manager.

Interesting question, if you look at most large corporations now they have actually set themselves "diversity" targets, covering race, gender, age etc for their workforce (think the "services", police, fire etc and local councils also have them) and so, although they are not allowed to say it, they are actually favouring certain people for certain roles.

My personal view on this sort of thing is that you should take the best person for the job regardless of their background, setting targets like this only leads to discrimination towards another area.

Chris Hughton seems to have done a good job so far at Newcastle.
He and his team will be tested up in the PL this season

I'm actually with Troycook on this one. The first poster is suggesting a form of positive descrimination in saying that black people should be singled out for more suppport/fast tracking. Why?

Surely that in itself is racist. It is implying that black people need help ahead of their white counterparts. This, in my opinion is nonsense.

There is no reason why there isnt a succesful black manager in the premier league. There doesnt need to be a reason. The simple fact is that there are 20 managers in the PL and of them only a handful can be considered successful. They are successful by either winning competitions,raising a club into a previously unthinkably higher position within the PL or by consistently getting more out of a squad than statisitcs would suggest. They are not succesful by being a particular colour, and I honestly dont feel that colour ever comes into a board's mind when looking to appoint a manager.

The alternative is that the first poster is suggesting there is a veiled racist cartel incharge of premier league clubs blocking black managers. If that is what is being suggested, then sorry but what nonsense. Paul Ince, Jean Tigana, Ruud Gullit and now Chris Hughton have all managed in the PL. They were not succesful for a number of reasons, colour not being one of them

racism is not tolerated in football full stop. we all witnessed that last week when we played rabotnicki and i guarantee uefa, if they haven't already done so, will fine the macedonian club for its fans actions.

with the size of the anti racism campaigns in football today i believe that uefa and the fa would have already probed this subject long before now had they deemed it a valid case of racism.

in most countries similar to ours people are offered equal opportunities to succeed in whatever role they wish to pursue. if you had said the fa or uefa should invest more money into third world countries in africa or alike then i would have entirely agreed with you.

there are no chinese pakistani smurfs no member of the simpsons as manager so why should blacks be singled out for special treatment (either positive or negative) ?