Originally Posted By: TrueRed
Honestly, I believe that Gerarrd peaked at Istanbul and Cara is that slow that he should not be a first choice full back.

Both of them could win the Premiership on passion alone but sadly their age is now showing,


fair point to make about carragher but he will be ever present this season regardless. and first choice full back? he's a centre half. he only gets thrown on the right by rafa to keep things tight in the back 4. plus rafa liked having 2 centre that were good in the air too for european and the big games.

does this make carra and gerrard 'bad' players though? didnt prove to be a problem for chelsea last season though did it?

sami hyppia was quality for us for years, litmanen did a good job for us and so did gary mac and markus babbel.

as for gerrard dont know about 'peaking' at istanbul. i remember him being our best player season before last.

last season was catastrophic nobody could have predicted that we were supposed to be on for winning the league after spending 17m on johnson and 20 on aquilani. but it got worse as the season went on lots of injuries to important players, everyones heads dropped, it highlighted our financial concerns and i think its fair to say our manager lost the plot just a little bit.

but imo neither carra or gerrard are past it. they are the spine of the team along with torres and pepe and hopefully joe cole this season.

everyone is so cynical about transfers this season due to the severe lack of funds, so buying an ageing player will obviously raise a few eyebrows with some fans, but it can make the difference in some circumstances