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#66992 22/07/10 02:56 PM
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So, you're a big Spurs fan and you know Harry Redknapp and he tells you he's confident that he's landed Joe Cole - would you have believed him?

Now I can't speak for you, I can only speak for myself, but I would have believed him. Of course I understand that things can change and there's medicals, money etc involved but I'd have certainly believed his claims.

Today he said:

"I spoke to him (Cole) a month ago and I thought he was coming here. He wanted to come to Spurs. He'd made his mind up - I had no doubt. But a month went by and Liverpool moved in."

Had someone who knew Harry ran a news item about his original beliefs, that person would be slaughtered now. "So much for your source knowing about Jole Cole" etc etc etc.

The point I'm trying to make is, things change in football and even the manager believed that he was going to secure that deal. Nobody would have knocked the source if known but it still didn't happen.

Since Steven Gerrard made up his mind to stay at Liverpool, I've had the "so much for your source" emails, not many, just 1 or 2 from the usual suspects.

There were several sources involved with the Steven Gerrard stuff this summer but the main source was Steven himself. He was seriously up for the move. His agent had it all in place and he gave indications at the end of the World Cup that he was ready to leave Liverpool. Take into consideration that we also have access to people at Real Madrid (as our members know). They were CONVINCED they were going to get this deal and that Purslow was ****ed because he'd agreed to let Steven go without problems i.e. a low fee, which is why Real never offered more than £20m.

BUT...

Something changed. I don't know what. To be honest, I don't care because this is great news, but I wanted to touch on it.

Something persuaded Steven to stay. Investment? Loyalty? Another player saying they were staying? Friendship pressure? Family pressure? Did Real Madrid upset him with comments about his age even though that was them just feeding nonsense to Liverpool?

I never once said he'd sign for Real Madrid. How would I know? What I did say was that I was worried he would do but I also added that maybe the emotions associated to leaving Liverpool would be too much because he's the skipper and he's spent his entire life at the club. It has to count for something.

Lee Bower was captured on camera shaking on his proposed transfer to Liverpool with Gerard Houllier on the Melwood playing fields. The next day the deal was off.

The night before Fowler signed for Leeds, Phil Thompson, assistant manager at the time, said Fowler was definitely not leaving Liverpool. Dave Maddock of The Mirror called me the same night and told me the opposite - I was slaughtered for suggesting he was leaving but Maddock was right and of course he would be as Godfather to Robbie's children. But the critics said Thommo was right and I was wrong. As it turned out, Dunk knew best.

"You said Sheikh Khalifa was buying the club" - no I didn't. I said he was at the table and I followed up later by saying that he'd been turned away. People don't or can't read. No matter what you say the haters will put their spin on it. Thankfully we have our members website where just about everyone understands the game, how things work and they have the added bonus of intelligence, yes, they can read.

We're now left to see what happens with Fernando Torres and Javier Mascherano. Over the summer I thought we had more of a chance of losing Gerrard than Torres. I have a source who works at the club and they recently told me that Torres plans to have family over for the Arsenal game. But I have another source who believes Torres will go - one is basing his future on facts, the other opinion. Both have good intent but both understand that things can change.

I have friends at Chelsea who confirm that they are serious about recruiting him but I also have a friend called common sense that tells me Chelsea's offers are less than half what Liverpool would sell him for. Common sense also tells me that the fact that Steven has declared to stay can only be seen as a good thing. Plus Torres owes us at least another season.

He's not in it for the money so Man City looks a non-starter and Barca, well, they'd love him but having landed Villa, do they have the money? You'd think not as they have other ideas ahead of Torres. If they fall through then maybe, never say never in football, but I can't see it.

Because of the recent run of positive news I'm thinking and hoping that Torres will stay. He too is clearly thinking about jumping ship so we will have to wait and see but I'm more hopeful than anything.

As for Mascherano. Well I don't know anyone at Inter Milan other than Rafa (not as a friend just a hello, how are you, capacity - I think he got used to seeing me and Steve popping up all over the place with our cameras!) but I do know someone at AC Milan. And according to them, Javier will make the switch to Inter once they agree a deal to sell Mario Balotelli. But hey, things could change and he could still be at Anfield next season... right? I can't see it meself but hey ho, let's see what happens.

If you use KopTalk, you really do need to have a decent level of intelligence. We're not saying you're thick if you use other sites but we really do try and only attract die-hard Reds that understand the game and how it works, especially on our members website where you don't have to endure brave keyboard warriors and conversations about out-of-towners.

The critics attack us for having an optional paid for membership despite other sites having the same format. KopTalk is actually cheaper than other LFC sites that we're aware of that have a membership - some sites even take up to £10-a-month in donations from their forum members. There's nothing wrong with that if people want to support something they enjoy but that's £120-a-year and our membership works out at no more than 10p-a-day, even less if you buy a longer sub. And we even give back FREE LFC SMS alerts all year round to our members.

We prefer the optional membership instead loads of advertising and it works. It also keeps the idiots way (generally) and allows for a much more mature level of discussion. But we also put a lot of effort in for people who are unable to support the site by becoming a member for whatever reasons. We have free forums, a free site and we churn out loads of fun but informative content on iTunes, Youtube and Facebook. We try to balance things out for everyone.

Unlike many of the other sites, we refuse to toe-the-line and we'll never kiss anyone's a*se in return for a favour here and a favour there, trust me, it happens. We don't care if you're from Liverpool or Libya, you just need to bleed Red. There's no such thing as a super fan, those that think they're better for you are just self-appointed tosspots.

People either love KopTalk or they hate KopTalk. That is their right. We only care about the people who love KopTalk. What our rejects, rivals and haters do is of no concern because we know we give our fans 100% effort all of the time and put plenty of content out there for people to discuss... so much content that forums on other LFC websites have to discuss. I'm just glad that our members aren't obsessed with other LFC websites; that'd kind of hurt smirk

And for those who dedicate their lives to discrediting myself and KopTalk, keep it up, because the fact you're hurting gives me the strength. The day you stop is the day I know I'm no longer of interest. Every time you mention my name or the site's name is another victory for me.

Those of you that support KopTalk - members AND non-members - thanks, your support and kind words mean everything to me. I'm upbeat and looking forward to the new season with you by my side because as you've told me many time before, I'll never walk alone.


PS: Just been told that "RH said in last night's post match comments that he was pleased that Gerrard is staying, and that he did have another option he was considering. "

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I fully understand what you are trying to say Dunk. Things can swiftly change in an instant whether it is for the better or worse for us fans and we just have to accept it and move on..


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'Dunk Twittered the following code at approx 11:00pm, 21st July.

ADSK2010$+SOONYNWA'

Apprantly you tweeted the above yesterday, care to elaborate further Dunk!

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Dunk, many thanks for a great and informative site.


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I used to be a member a few years back, but the constant sniping of your enemies got to me enough that I left.

Its a shame because I had always enjoyed your site and writings.

I've only just come back and wonder what happened to Steve? When I was last a member he was in all your films and trips. I remmeber the one in Newcastle when you had that "moving" conversation with their chairman. Hilarious. laugh

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Originally Posted By: Zubz
Apprantly you tweeted the above yesterday, care to elaborate further Dunk!


The elaboration, I feel, will be left to us.

Oh & Dunk, your right. You will never walk alone. You might, however, be 10 or 15 paces behind us, desperately out of breath trying to catch up wink , but no, you'll never be alone.


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carnt please them all an carnt get it write everytime!

keep it up dunk

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Wierd that you felt the need to defend yourself Dunc against 2 emails from the usual suspects.. By now you should have accepted that you tell the truth as far as it is fed to you by your sources, and that people in life who call you false should simply be ignored.

Am i right or am i right ?


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Dunc if you were 100% correct all of the time you'd be God! I take your statements like they are meant to be, something that might happen, no more, no less. The things you have said on here may have more truth to them than you realise, such as the Khalifa one leaving the table & coming back in July. This one fits with what Brougton has said cos the sale/auction is now a legal issue and has to be seen as going through the right process. Mid July is when the bids have to be in. If Khalifa bids the best, not necessarily the highest (Brougton’s words), then you may well be telling us he has won the right to be our new owner before the world know in August.

Keep up the good work!!

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the main thing i dont get is this constant conflict between sites. if you dont like a website you dont go on it simple as.

football is full of rumours these days, the newspapers being the worse for it. if a source gives some information then its only a suggestion, nobody is asking you to believe or not to. doesnt mean its 100% true or false but it just raises some awareness of what the reports are claiming.

if you can't handle that then surely you should stop buying a newspaper. i like this site, we all love our football club and we all like talking about it... i really dont see how anyone can take offence to that.




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