We'd do well to get into the top 4 this season. Benitez took us backwards in the end with a failed attacking full-back system and 2 full-backs who couldn't defend, and sold off good players. I personally think top 8 is now more realistic. The league has improved, and there is also Man C to consider who win only get stronger. Also remember that Benitez had the best years of Gerrard when he was in his absolute prime. Without him, Liverpool wouldn't have had the success they had. Now Gerrard is 30 and not as mobile as he once was, take a look at last season, not the same as he was. After 30 you decline, even if it's in subtle ways. This year - for me - is a write-off in terms of winning anything. It IS all about steadying the ship while the 2 cancers make their exit and giving young players a chance to improve and mature. In a way, I'm glad. I can finally watch Liverpool without biting my nails off through expectation of us challanging for the title. A pressure off season might just be what we need until we can get new owners in and be real contenders once again.