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serious question here guys , for us to move on the following must happen - our defining moment you might call it

ask yourself this would some of rafa's crap get in any top 3 side? lucas, ngog , et al, er...........no!

we really do get shown up by bad players when we are playing bad , and its always the usual suspects (see list to go below)

we need a clean sweep of the board lads , (this will be dependant on new owners of course) , we should definately keep the decent squad players but this is how i think liverpool should look next season

GK - Reina
RB - Johnno
CB - Agger
CB - Carra
LB - New Signing
RM - New signing
CM - stevie
CM - Masch
LM - new signing
S - Torres
S- new signing

Bench from:
aqua
maxi
Jovanovic
greek
nemeth
darby
kelly
skrtel
eccleston
ayala
amoo
pacheco
dalla valle
shelvey

none of the subs bench are poor , and are gonna be great back ups for the 1st 11 when it comes to subs or injuries etc , the same can't be said about the list below


to be sold: to raise vital funds and for roy to weed out rafa's poor players and bring his own players in:

cavalieri
riera
kuyt
babel
lucas
insua
ngog
spearing
degen
plessis
itanje
el zhar

like it or not the ones on the above list are never gonna take liverpool forward , not sure of valuations but selling that lot would raise millions , couple that with the few quid we'll get from laurel and hardy and at least we'll get some quality in

thoughts?

I agree with some of what ur saying however Kuyt, Riera, Lucas, Insua and spearing must remain. Riera should start undeer hodgson. hes a good player.

theres potentially a +£60m transfer kitty if he sells masch and about 8-12 more players

bring in some quality, 4 or 5 decent signings and a couple of squad players and give some of the young lads a go as back up

I dont think we should be looking at the top three myself, we are a different club now and need to be looking at staying ahead of the likes of Spurs, Villa and Everton. The likes of Chelsea and City are way ahead of us in finances where we cant compete, Arsenal are light years ahead in football terms and there development of young players and how a club should work on a budget and United are one of the giants of the game along with Barca and Real Madrid who we will never catch no matter what we ever won. Like I said we need to be looking over our shoulder rather than whats ahead of us.

Aim for 4th & we will finish lower. Look to win the title or go and follow the tiddlywinks championships.

spearing needs to go. he's past the age of being talked about as potential now. if he was good enough he would have broken through but he had to go out on loan to get some football. being based in leicester i paid particular attention to how he got on here and i can tell you there's no chance he's going to make the grade. lacked the stamina, lacked the technique and positional sense to make it at the top. saying that he does like a tackle and is one that always gives 100% but i think the championship is his level. he's similar to guthrie in that sense and ultimately people may be disapointed to see him leave but he won't be pulling up many trees once he does.