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I know it would be a massive risk to sell our two main attackers this summer but given that it looks like we face losing Salah on a free in 12 months time I do think we need to consider selling him now.
Next summer we are going to have to come up with £100m to find a replacement and maybe it’s better addressing the problem now with a £50m sale to fund that.
Also, I know he won the PFA player of the year award last season but he was not great after he came back from the AFCON in February. Maybe we have already seen the best of him?
Not sure who we would get to replace him but selling now is worth considering.
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I know it would be a massive risk to sell our two main attackers this summer but given that it looks like we face losing Salah on a free in 12 months time I do think we need to consider selling him now.
Next summer we are going to have to come up with £100m to find a replacement and maybe it’s better addressing the problem now with a £50m sale to fund that.
Also, I know he won the PFA player of the year award last season but he was not great after he came back from the AFCON in February. Maybe we have already seen the best of him?
Not sure who we would get to replace him but selling now is worth considering.
I think his main objective is to earn huge wages and that would be more possible if he leaves on a free transfer. I haven't seen anybody trying to buy him, the only 4 teams that could buy him and pay huge wages are PSG. Real Madrid and the 2 Manchesters, none has shown any interest
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I know it would be a massive risk to sell our two main attackers this summer but given that it looks like we face losing Salah on a free in 12 months time I do think we need to consider selling him now.
Next summer we are going to have to come up with £100m to find a replacement and maybe it’s better addressing the problem now with a £50m sale to fund that.
Also, I know he won the PFA player of the year award last season but he was not great after he came back from the AFCON in February. Maybe we have already seen the best of him?
Not sure who we would get to replace him but selling now is worth considering.
I think his main objective is to earn huge wages and that would be more possible if he leaves on a free transfer. I haven't seen anybody trying to buy him, the only 4 teams that could buy him and pay huge wages are PSG. Real Madrid and the 2 Manchesters, none has shown any interest I agree, it is out of our hands, Salah will just sit on his contract and get £500K a week next season on a free with someone like RM, Man City or PSG. I am guessing Salah's people have briefed the relevant clubs so there will be no bids coming in, they would have already said what they will pay next season when he is on a free, so he will be negotiating with them rather than us, only way we keep him is to pay him what they will pay, which I doubt we will do as we cannot afford it under FSG. With Mane leaving I think it is best we keep Salah and let him go on a free next season, there would be too much change if he left also, Nunez is an unknown and could take time to settle, so we will miss Mane's goals and impact, he has been a great player for us and I think allot of people underestimate his loss.
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I think it's all paper talk. But at £50m to £60m we sell. But I agree that nobody is going to buy him at that price AND pay those wages.
We are right to keep a lid on our wages structure or it will run out of control like at United and Arsenal where players like Pogba, Ozil, Aubameyang were paid £350k a week and could still leave for free. Thinking about it they are as much to blame for the situation we are in because Salah must be thinking that those 3 are not fit to lace his boots and have already been paid more than we can offer.
The forward line we potentially have now of Nunez, Jota and Diaz are on less than what Salah wants on his own. The club could play a blinder here and sign another forward now and freeze Salah out. After all if he is planning to leave why should he be part of our plans?
I have seen news that says Salah would go to a rival in the PL to get his payday. Again all paper nonsense probably but can you imagine him at United or Chelsea or City next year for free? Best scenario might be to get Pulisic or Werner or even Bernardo Silva or Sterling in if he went to Chelsea or City. United have nothing we want.
If someone like Juventus come in with a lowball £35m offer I am pretty sure he will be gone. Salah looks supremely fit and like Ronaldo, Messi and Ibrahimovic looks like he could play at the highest level for another 5 years. Of course that is not a guarantee and even if we were to come up with some bumper 4 year contract at £400k a week we could be back in the same boat with Diaz or Nunez in 4 years time.
Selling to a rival to strengthen them is bad but taking something of theirs to weaken them and strengthen us in return might just be the best of a lot of bad options here.
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There does seem to be a growing movement with players at the top clubs demanding more and more $$$ and running down their contracts to leave on a FREE and getting huge signing on fees and contracts because their next club don't have the huge transfer fee to pay!
If I were a cunning CEO of a top club, I would hold a secret meeting with all the top clubs and come to some sort of an agreement where players who are purposely running their contracts down are black balled or given the option to be swapped for a player at another club doing the same.
Agents are vermin who are holding clubs to ransom, time for clubs to fight back and nip the greed in the bud!
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Sorry Acca, my post went a bit off subject!
I previously suggested freezing Salah out. He's 30 now going into the last year of his contract, he won't be seen in a World Cup year other than maybe a friendly for Egypt because AFCON 2023 doesn't start until late June 23 after PL 22/23 season ends. Salah will be 31 then and a free agent. However nobody will want to pay the 400k a week he wants, especially after he has not been playing regularly. There is also the fact that Salah has played for a team who suited his style of play, he won't get that at every club. I'd also point out that rival teams are getting to grips with how Salah plays, judged by the 2nd half of last season, his figures were putrid.
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Sorry Acca, my post went a bit off subject!
I previously suggested freezing Salah out. He's 30 now going into the last year of his contract, he won't be seen in a World Cup year other than maybe a friendly for Egypt because AFCON 2023 doesn't start until late June 23 after PL 22/23 season ends. Salah will be 31 then and a free agent. However nobody will want to pay the 400k a week he wants, especially after he has not been playing regularly. There is also the fact that Salah has played for a team who suited his style of play, he won't get that at every club. I'd also point out that rival teams are getting to grips with how Salah plays, judged by the 2nd half of last season, his figures were putrid. What do you mean by freezing Salah, keep him but not play him? You cannot be serious, nobody pays someone more than 200k a week and then "freeze" him, might as well put him on the transfer list. In what world are you living? Salah and LFC have signed a contract and he has all the right in the world to honour the contract.
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There does seem to be a growing movement with players at the top clubs demanding more and more $$$ and running down their contracts to leave on a FREE and getting huge signing on fees and contracts because their next club don't have the huge transfer fee to pay!
If I were a cunning CEO of a top club, I would hold a secret meeting with all the top clubs and come to some sort of an agreement where players who are purposely running their contracts down are black balled or given the option to be swapped for a player at another club doing the same.
Agents are vermin who are holding clubs to ransom, time for clubs to fight back and nip the greed in the bud!
Lots of clubs take advantage of this, this is why you will never be a CEO, let alone of a top club
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Sorry Acca, my post went a bit off subject!
I previously suggested freezing Salah out. He's 30 now going into the last year of his contract, he won't be seen in a World Cup year other than maybe a friendly for Egypt because AFCON 2023 doesn't start until late June 23 after PL 22/23 season ends. Salah will be 31 then and a free agent. However nobody will want to pay the 400k a week he wants, especially after he has not been playing regularly. There is also the fact that Salah has played for a team who suited his style of play, he won't get that at every club. I'd also point out that rival teams are getting to grips with how Salah plays, judged by the 2nd half of last season, his figures were putrid. What do you mean by freezing Salah, keep him but not play him? You cannot be serious, nobody pays someone more than 200k a week and then "freeze" him, might as well put him on the transfer list. In what world are you living? Salah and LFC have signed a contract and he has all the right in the world to honour the contract. Freezing him out would be a mistake, we might not like what Salah is doing by running down his contract, but he is a professional, I have never seen him play and doubted his effort/desire, sometimes it is too much which affects his performance, we would be cutting our nose off to spite our face. He is one of our best players, he is not going to the World Cup, so I think we should just play him every game, if we are not keeping him next season, burn him out, who cares about his future!!!!
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I think freezing him out is one way of getting him to firmly nail his colours to the mast. We have had players in the past offered new contracts way before they were due and they have signed them. Why? Because the agent gets a nice bunce that's why.
The way Liverpool operates is by rewarding good performances and offering new contracts well in advance in the hope of more of the same. It is fair to say that given their individual performances over the last 3 or 4 years that both Salah and Mane deserved more. But it's a team game and without Robertson and TAA supplying the ammunition and Henderson and Fabinho covering for those two going forward none of this happens.
Of course we could pay everyone what they want and have pay spiralling out of control and end up like United and Arsenal, no chance of a trophy and Thursday night football for the foreseeable future. Salah signed a new improved contract a few years ago and you have to congratulate the club for retrospectively underpaying him. But the future is not guaranteed of any of us in life and paying Salah £400k a week is not really good value when Jota, Diaz and Nunez would be getting less than that between them.
He is supremely fit but God forbid if he got a serious injury early in the season and his contract was running down how much would be be worth to someone else? And if his injury meant that others stepped up to the plate successfully why would anybody want to interfere with that? There has to be a compromise here somewhere or he has to be sold. Irrespective of what others have been getting elsewhere we must not be dragged to the place where player power and money take over.
I totally agree that we play to his strengths and he has been out of touch a little at times in the last 3rd of the season. He would not get the chances he gets with us at another club because there isn't anyone who can play with our intensity and keep that going game after game.
I would love to see 5 more years of Mo like the last 5 years because you know it will come with trophies but not at the expense of other players. There are a few clubs that would pay him £400k a week but for now long? 2 years? 3 years?
He could still be our highest paid player but on a 5 year contract on say £250k a week with a release clause to sell for a decent sum should a team like to cough up the readies. It sticks in my throat when I remember that the biggest winner if he gets £400k a week is Boris and his cronies in all that lovely tax money paid in full by us fans funding it all yet again.
This really needs resolving and if his head has been turned by Barcelona or any other club promising wages next summer isn't that an illegal approach?
If he stays then great but not on what he wants and let's have it all done and dusted before the start of the season. If he goes then great we can go out and get another player (or 2) now. We are going to 5 subs next season so I don't believe all our business is done and dusted. Want replacements? Go for Saka and Dybala. One costs a lot with relatively low wages and is English the other on bigger wages on a free transfer. Get them both !
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