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Simple, because he has no real love for the club or the fans, he is just using Liverpool as a stepping stone for his career. All he and Gerrard had to do was a simple short statement of what they intend to do but no it's to much, they know perfectly well by keeping there mouths shut it will only pour petrol onto the flames of the Fleet Street journalists, they have no interest in fans suffering or being worried, just themselves. Lets be brutaly honest, Torres had already made his intentions very clear well before the tournament even started of where his true loyalties were and that was sacrifycing the business end of our season by having an operation so he could play for his country in the world cup. I am totaly made up he is having a nitemare of a tournament, serves him right, your loyalties should always be with who pays your obscene wages first and foremost.

stop moaning.

if torres wants to go liverpool should tell him he can go but not to an enlish team ,sell him abroad . and dont say we cant do it ,the mancs did it with heinze

Let him go to Chelsea or City, having a player you only get half a season out of, lets you down just when you need him most and a player who will always put country before club same club who actualy pay his wages, will only hinder City or Chelsea which has to be good for us.

I don't think we can ever question Nando's commitment to the club. I think you have gone way over the top. Was he not supposed to get his knee fixed? Would you rather he waited until the summer to have the operation (incidentally, he still could not have played in our final games and would have been recovering during pre season)?

I understand the guy has ambitions, and I just hope Roy can persuade him that he can fulfil those whilst at Liverpool. You have to remember that he spent 7 years at Athletico, when they were [oops] poor and he could have gone anywhere. Torres cannot be classified as some sort of mercenary always out for himself.

Torres played against Benfica and he turned out to be the difference between the two teams after that he decided to have the Operation, he is also quoted as saying he is having the operation now in order to be fit for the World Cup. Torres was faced with the same dilemma of club v country as was Xavi at Barca and Zamora at Fulham both supposodly needing operations and both deciding to put the club first. I know Zamora is not top class but he was still a real contender to play in the world cup ahead of Heskey but he chose to play on for Fulham and try to win the Europa league, similar to Xavi who has needed an operation for the last two months of the campagn even though looking at him in the world cup you would never of thought so with how well he has played. Club should always come before country and am afraid Torres overstepped the mark, shame on you Fernando you have had the world cup you deserve.

Are you a doctor? Do you know the recovery time after every operation? A broken finger <> a broken leg

Premiership comes around every single year, 38+ Games a season.

World Cup comes around every 4 years and only 7 games to play, in my opinion i would put world cup before any club...

So what if it does come round every four years, for me thats not long enough it's just an overhyped competition that nobody really cares about. ask yourself this if it is so important you ask any supporter of any club in this country what would they rather see England win the World Cup or there own team win either the premier League or Champions league and htere would only be one winner and it would'nt be the world cup, thats shows how important it is. How many ordinary fans actualy get in to watch there country play I think the most England had officialy was 6,500 in a stadium holding about 65,000 this shows the world cup is just about corporate and hospitality packages. The world cup is all about making money for the country, players on bonuses and big companies getting marketing and publicity rights it has nothing to do with ordinary fans, thats why the world cup is a farce. Clubs lend there players out after looking after them all season paying them obscene amounts of wages and training them only to farm them out to another team where they come back injured or in shame facing all sorts of abuse after there country has underperformed.

It is important to the players,did you ever think they might enjoy playing for their countries on the world stage.It is not their fault the world cup is overhyped.