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#638193 - 19/06/21 07:35 PM VAR and offside at the EURO
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It's so much better and non controversial than in the EPL where they try too hard to check. I hope the EPL adopt this system

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#638275 - 11/07/21 12:03 PM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: EnergisedReds]
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I think the Stirling dive for a pen that was checked by VAR yet still given shows what a load of sh1t VAR has turned out to be.

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#638276 - 11/07/21 03:07 PM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: kernowred]
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Originally Posted By kernowred
I think the Stirling dive for a pen that was checked by VAR yet still given shows what a load of sh1t VAR has turned out to be.


That's highly debatable because there was contact. Probably not enough, but contact there was off the ball, so as a neutral, the penalty is not a scandal. As for the VAR, without it offside goals would have been allowed


Edited by EnergisedReds (11/07/21 03:12 PM)

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#638280 - 11/07/21 05:17 PM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: EnergisedReds]
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The games certainly seemed to flow better in the Euro's with being checked quickly while action was in play/just after goals.

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#638292 - 12/07/21 10:41 PM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: kernowred]
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Originally Posted By kernowred
I think the Stirling dive for a pen that was checked by VAR yet still given shows what a load of sh1t VAR has turned out to be.


Ref was on commentary saying var have no power to overturn it because it wasn't clear cut.
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#638293 - 13/07/21 11:02 AM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: kernowred]
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Originally Posted By kernowred
I think the Stirling dive for a pen that was checked by VAR yet still given shows what a load of sh1t VAR has turned out to be.


Yes but it's about not re-refereeing the game and keeping some flow. Was it a pen? no but it is in the realms of a subjective decision and so the refs initial call stood, fair enough.

It's not about getting everything 100% correct and that's where we go wrong because we microscope a decision 4-5 times a game in the prem and the officials are terrified of the backlash. At least the refs in this tournament had some backbone and managment of the games.

It should really be something which is used perhaps once every 3-4 matches when someone was 4 yards offside for instance, not for tit for tat desicions. my view anyway.

Our officals last season were using it so much that they started to actually miss the blantently obvious errors because they were so focused on whether a toe nail was offside or not.

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#638295 - 13/07/21 02:29 PM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: jim_beam]
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Originally Posted By kernowred
I think the Stirling dive for a pen that was checked by VAR yet still given shows what a load of sh1t VAR has turned out to be.


Yes but it's about not re-refereeing the game and keeping some flow. Was it a pen? no but it is in the realms of a subjective decision and so the refs initial call stood, fair enough.

It's not about getting everything 100% correct and that's where we go wrong because we microscope a decision 4-5 times a game in the prem and the officials are terrified of the backlash. At least the refs in this tournament had some backbone and managment of the games.

It should really be something which is used perhaps once every 3-4 matches when someone was 4 yards offside for instance, not for tit for tat desicions. my view anyway.

Our officals last season were using it so much that they started to actually miss the blantently obvious errors because they were so focused on whether a toe nail was offside or not.


VAR was not going to solve all refereeing issues but only help refrees to have another chance of making the right decision. However, not all decisions are clear and therefore some are subjective, so we will not always agree with all decisions. What VAR has done is that it has reduced mistakes especially blatant ones

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#638325 - 22/07/21 02:53 AM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: EnergisedReds]
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But you don't need VAR for the shirt pull around the neck by Chiellini on Saka.
That was a sin bin or red in Rugby League let alone football.

Standard of officiating generally poor.

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#638326 - 22/07/21 09:09 AM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: AccaBoosty]
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But you don't need VAR for the shirt pull around the neck by Chiellini on Saka.
That was a sin bin or red in Rugby League let alone football.

Standard of officiating generally poor.


A red card for that one, I don't think so. It's not as if Saka was immediately on a one on one with the keeper and he was on the right side near the half way line, and the foul was not even dangerous, it was a what is called a professional foul and got a yellow card rightly so

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#638327 - 22/07/21 10:28 AM Re: VAR and offside at the EURO [Re: EnergisedReds]
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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By AccaBoosty
But you don't need VAR for the shirt pull around the neck by Chiellini on Saka.
That was a sin bin or red in Rugby League let alone football.

Standard of officiating generally poor.


A red card for that one, I don't think so. It's not as if Saka was immediately on a one on one with the keeper and he was on the right side near the half way line, and the foul was not even dangerous, it was a what is called a professional foul and got a yellow card rightly so


A strong ref would have had him off rightly so. Also the stamp on Grealish was worthy of a red. To be fair I think if Chiellini had done that to a player with some balls they would have got up and decked him.

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